Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Full Ring NL Hold'em

  > 

KK 50 nl

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
pankfish
Old 07-27-2008, 09:17 PM     Post subject: KK 50 nl #1 (permalink)  
pankfish's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
Posts: 385
pankfish
villain is 15/14/3 over 350 hands. No reason to think he is four betting lite. Do you bet fold this flop or is it fine as played? Only hands I can really put in his range is QQ or AK. On the flop it's pretty much AK or some random crap he is trying to make a play with, though there is no reason to expect it because there is no reason for him to think I'm 3betting him light.

Also do you bet the turn?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10.60)
UTG 1 ($44.70)
CO ($82.55)
Hero ($124.55)
SB ($55.10)
BB ($58.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO raises to $15, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($30.75, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($30.75, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($30.75, 2 players)
CO bets $15, Hero calls $15

[Results Hidden]
<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
 
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
spoonitnow
Old 07-27-2008, 09:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
spoonitnow's Avatar
Straight Flush

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
Posts: 5,406
spoonitnow is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to spoonitnow Send a message via MSN to spoonitnow Send a message via Yahoo to spoonitnow Send a message via Skype™ to spoonitnow
 It's probably fine as played. With AA I'd be more inclined to stack off.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
Reply With Quote
hockey4433
Old 08-05-2008, 09:13 PM #3 (permalink)  

Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 23
hockey4433
bet turn
Reply With Quote
daven
Old 08-06-2008, 08:02 AM     Post subject: Re: KK 50 nl #4 (permalink)  
Straight Flush

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: soaking up ethanol, moving on up
Posts: 5,807
daven will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by pankfish
No reason to think he is four betting lite.
so are you playing KK for set-odds here? If so, fold. If not, bet the flop.
Reply With Quote
pankfish
Old 08-06-2008, 10:51 AM     Post subject: Re: KK 50 nl #5 (permalink)  
pankfish's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
Posts: 385
pankfish
Quote:
Originally Posted by daven
Quote:
Originally Posted by pankfish
No reason to think he is four betting lite.
so are you playing KK for set-odds here? If so, fold. If not, bet the flop.
What if I think I'm ahead of his range preflop, but not too far ahead on the flop? And the only part of his range I'm ahead of on the flop isn't calling a bet anyway?

By the turn I guess I should bet though.
<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
 
Reply With Quote
a500lbgorilla
Old 08-06-2008, 01:00 PM     Post subject: Re: KK 50 nl #6 (permalink)  
a500lbgorilla's Avatar
JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
Posts: 8,379
a500lbgorilla is a name known to alla500lbgorilla is a name known to alla500lbgorilla is a name known to alla500lbgorilla is a name known to alla500lbgorilla is a name known to alla500lbgorilla is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to a500lbgorilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by daven
Quote:
Originally Posted by pankfish
No reason to think he is four betting lite.
so are you playing KK for set-odds here? If so, fold. If not, bet the flop.
what?

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
Reply With Quote
AHiltz
Old 08-06-2008, 02:19 PM     Post subject: Re: KK 50 nl #7 (permalink)  
AHiltz's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Coldbrook, NS
Posts: 1,589
AHiltz
Send a message via MSN to AHiltz
Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by daven
Quote:
Originally Posted by pankfish
No reason to think he is four betting lite.
so are you playing KK for set-odds here? If so, fold. If not, bet the flop.
what?
In short he's saying that if he thinks opp has AA, then calling with KK to try and hit a set is -EV since he doesn't have the odds. If he thinks that opp has any other two cards, then he has to bet the flop.
Reply With Quote
pankfish
Old 08-06-2008, 08:50 PM     Post subject: Re: KK 50 nl #8 (permalink)  
pankfish's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
Posts: 385
pankfish
Quote:
Originally Posted by AHiltz
Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by daven
Quote:
Originally Posted by pankfish
No reason to think he is four betting lite.
so are you playing KK for set-odds here? If so, fold. If not, bet the flop.
what?
In short he's saying that if he thinks opp has AA, then calling with KK to try and hit a set is -EV since he doesn't have the odds. If he thinks that opp has any other two cards, then he has to bet the flop.

I think he has QQ+,AK, maaaybe he is fooling around with something else but I have no reason to think so at the time. I'm definitely not playing KK for set odds here. Do you think there is value in betting the flop though after the Queen comes given his range for four betting?
<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:04 PM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.