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Krieg1984
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05-16-2006, 05:14 AM
Post subject: KJo on CO 25NL; I played this hand like a donk
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 93
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I let the pot size balloon out of control and I don't even know why I bet the turn. Being OOP is bad. All comments welcome, please tell me how bad I suck lol.
On a more serious note, how many of you bet this flop?
BTW no real reads on villian. He made a comment after the hand that he had "pair with draw" but who really knows. Also this is NOT 6 max, a few players recently got stacked and/or left the table.
Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($21.39)
Hero ($29.95)
Button ($17.71)
SB ($48.59)
BB ($8.25)
UTG ($14.10)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , J . SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4.10) 6 , K , 7 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.75, Button calls $2.75, BB folds, UTG folds.
Turn: ($9.60) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises all-in to $13.96, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $28.56
Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins $28.56.
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Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,614
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i actually don't think this is that terrible. i bet that flop and i can understand betting the turn.
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Krieg1984
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 93
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
i actually don't think this is that terrible. i bet that flop and i can understand betting the turn.
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Why do you bet the flop and turn? Please elaborate if you would be so kind.
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Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."
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WildBobAA
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: lol i dunno
Posts: 1,811
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I wouldn't have raised over the UTG limp. If the limper was in MP then I like the raise more but you know UTG is calling. Other than that, this isn't really that bad.
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Turska
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05-16-2006, 06:49 AM
Post subject: I think you played it ok.
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 254
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I would have folded too.
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,614
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Krieg1984
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
i actually don't think this is that terrible. i bet that flop and i can understand betting the turn.
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Why do you bet the flop and turn? Please elaborate if you would be so kind. 
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How about to protect your hand? You're talking like you have 23o here. You can't regulary check down TPGK.
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Krieg1984
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 93
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by Krieg1984
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
i actually don't think this is that terrible. i bet that flop and i can understand betting the turn.
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Why do you bet the flop and turn? Please elaborate if you would be so kind. 
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How about to protect your hand? You're talking like you have 23o here. You can't regulary check down TPGK.
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Yea I guess I'm being afraid of ghosts here but I'm just trying to think more about the hand and how I play. I bet this kind of hand 99% of the time here.
The statement about the UTG limper makes a lot of sense, as well.
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Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."
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finky
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 270
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I'll often check the turn here, there's not a lot of hands you can get value from and you may be well behind. If they check behind then go ahead and valuebet the river, you stand a much greater chance of being called by a hand like TT.
If they bet the turn then it's going to come down to reads. How aggressive/passive are they? Do they like to float?
PS I like the PR raise, pwn them limpers.
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bair
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 953
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i usually check the turn here and value bet the river unless his vpip is like 40+, then ill value bet all streets. so i probably play it the same way except i would make it 1.25 preflop.
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Krieg1984
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 93
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Come to think of it: viewing this guy's PT stats for the session (he was 50/15 for about 60 hands), combined with his little comment after the hand: "pair with draw", I'm almost positive he had 98. In that case he had 13 outs, but you can bet your ass he's not going to get me off a hand like that with a push next time. Especially when he doesn't have much money behind him as n the example hand.
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Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."
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cardsman1992
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Being enjoyed at Jack's Bar since 1397
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I like the preflop raise, I bet the same on the turn (maybe $3 if I feel frisky), but I probably check the turn. He bets 2/3 pot, I'm done. He checks, I bet 1/3-1/2 pot on the river and fold to a push. I call 1/2 pot or less on flop to see what hits on the turn.
I continue with KJ on the flop a lot. It may be a leak, but I think KQ and AK raise UTG at this level. Two pair is a possibility on the flop, so when I am called, I think this is where I go into defensive mode. High VP$IP makes K6, K7, and 67 more likely.....
I don't call any push on the river unless I see K on the turn and K on the river....
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