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KJ off suit from SB, Tp good kicker+ flush draw

  
 
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sweetgt3
Old 12-20-2006, 10:26 PM     Post subject: KJ off suit from SB, Tp good kicker+ flush draw #1 (permalink)  

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live ring game, max buy in $200, blinds 2/5

position small blind.. KcJh ($850 in chips)

One right to the button raises to $20
button: Calls $20
SB (me): calls $20
BB ( $550 in chips): Calls $20

Pot: $80

Flop: Jc, 5c, 7c

SB (me): bets $60 on Tp + good kicker + high flush draw
BB: raises to $120
all folds and comes to me.. and I push all in!!!!
BB calls

is this a bad push??
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Depends on the game and raiser, but I'm almost always folding KJo in the SB to a raise. Mediocre hand, oop, dump it. If you're sure he's stealing, re-raise. As played I like the flop lead, but without a read probably fold to the min-raise. It's a scary board.

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edit: somehow I missed that you have the second nut flush draw, even though it's in the title of the thread I don't mind your push actually. But calling's an option too since he's giving you good odds to draw with his min-raise. You'd have to re-evaluate a blank turn then. A read would help.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:34 AM #3 (permalink)  
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$200 max buy in for a 2/5 game????????????
Min raising in a 2/5 game??????????

No offence, but I get the impression you are really out of your depth at that level.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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$200 max buy in for a 2/5 game????????????
This is pretty standard a lot of places.

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Min raising in a 2/5 game??????????
sweetgt3 didn't min-raise, the BB did.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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$200 max buy in for a 2/5 game????????????
This is pretty standard a lot of places.

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Min raising in a 2/5 game??????????
sweetgt3 didn't min-raise, the BB did.
Yeah I know, I'm just saying it occurred.

Is $200 really standard for a game like that? I find that very hard to believe.
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sweetgt3
Old 12-21-2006, 02:09 AM #6 (permalink)  

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Well, it was a quite a loose table.. And I think it was a good choice calling a raise with KJ off suit preflop~~
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:36 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Is $200 really standard for a game like that? I find that very hard to believe.
I'm not a live game veteran, by any means, but I've been to two casinos in WA that were $2/$5 blinds with $200 max buy-in.

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Well, it was a quite a loose table.. And I think it was a good choice calling a raise with KJ off suit preflop
We can agree to disagree. If CO is a loose raiser and has a stack close in size to yours, I'd prefer a re-raise. But I'm rarely calling with this hand in the worst position.
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