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Old 04-08-2007, 01:30 AM     Post subject: A-K 100NL #1 (permalink)  
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 I think this hand demonstrates why you shouldn't just call a reraise with A-K.

FullTiltPoker Game #2120204821: Table Village Center - $0.50/$1

Hero: ($98)
Villain: ($118.35)
6 other players

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero: [Ad Kh]
1 fold
Hero: raises to $3.50
4 folds
Villain: raises to $13
1 fold
Hero: calls $9.50

*** FLOP *** [4s Ac Js]
Hero: bets $13
Villain: raises to $35
Hero: ?

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Board: 4s Ac Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.621% 01.12% 27.50% 111 2722.50 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 71.379% 43.88% 27.50% 4344 2722.50 { AA, JJ, AKs, AKo }
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:37 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I guess if you don't think he's the type to reraise with AQ pf then I'd fold. Though alot of people on 2+2 and here say that if you donk an Ace high flop in a reraised pot that they're raising no matter what. If I called pf I would need a good read to fold this when I flopped TPTK with the Ace. I would also need even the slightest read to not fold this preflop to his reraise, so given no info here I'd fold pf.
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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If you called it preflop knowing you'd be OOP then you have to 3bet AI on the flop knowing this is a strong possibility.
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Old 04-08-2007, 02:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah fold preflop unless you have a good reason not to. if you do though idk is leading out the best way to play it... that really sets you up to get allin with a hand you dont really like that much.
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Old 04-08-2007, 02:37 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Instead of folding preflop, i think raising is better. It makes identical A-K hands have to make a very difficult decision before the flop, and J-J/Q-Q hands are forced into a situation where they will probably fold.

Leading on this flop was definitely a bad idea, since i might win a c-bet on the flop from Q-Q/K-K if i were to instead go for c/c or c/r.

Since there are 6 combinations of A-K, 1 combination of A-A, and 3 combinations of J-J, i should probably try to keep the pot as small as possible but also go to showdown since i am tied with 5 of the 10 hands (As-Ks is ahead) he could be holding.

More thoughts on the "as played" portion of this hand?
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:40 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I forgot to mention as played push the flop but w/e. I would have c/r the flop to. I think pushing with no read is just as bad as calling.

edit: i quickly change my mind about pushing it's no where near as bad as calling.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:58 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 either dump it or come over the top. JJ is a strong possibility, being against AA would suck otherwise you can see if we can push him off it lol.
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