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Old 08-20-2006, 02:28 AM     Post subject: Is this just lazy? #1 (permalink)  
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I'm wondering if I'm losing money in spots like this by pushing the flop. Is it better to bet something 1/3-1/2 my stack and then push the turn (or is that too big of a bet anyway that wouldn't even make a difference)?

UTG+2 is 67%/15%/0.75 over 45 hands
MP2 is 32%/4%/1.2 over 94 hands

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $12.15
UTG+1: $5.85
UTG+2: $76.83
MP1: $19.99
MP2: $42.55
Hero: $23.85
CO: $18.75
Button: $6.35
SB: $38.85
BB: $25

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with J J
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T J K ($4.75, 6 players)
SB folds, UTG+2 bets $1, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises all-in $23.1, 3 folds.
Uncalled bets: $22.1 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $7.75
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Mucho -EV.

Every so often youll get a call from something like 2 pair or A K but youll almost always be behind when you get a call here. I just posted a reply to a similar hand earlier today. The point is this is one of those rare occasions when you are pretty sure you are ahead and you are pretty sure you know what outs your opponent has (e.g. hearts). Its true that a heart could come and he could bluff you out with just a straight draw but thats more than made up for by the times you hit the FH and stack him when he has the straight or flush.
He isnt going to go crazy with a pair or 2 here because hell be worried that YOU have the straight / flush.

You want him to make a mistake here so bet as much as you think he'll call with just a high diamond and fold those times he makes the flush. Start playing to win money instead of pots.
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:09 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Your move looks like a made flush aching for the :Ad: to call. It's not lazy, just greedy. Make him draw to the flush without odds instead of hoping hes a giant donk.
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