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Just call river with set?
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givememyleg
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05-13-2006, 11:31 PM
Post subject: Just call river with set?
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($9)
MP3 ($7.05)
CO ($15.10)
Button ($27.45)
SB ($10.60)
BB ($10.15)
UTG ($25.75)
UTG+1 ($8.20)
givememyleg ($26.75)
Preflop: givememyleg is MP1 with 4 , 4 .
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, givememyleg calls $0.25, MP2 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50, givememyleg calls $0.50.
Flop: ($4) T , A , K (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, givememyleg checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($4) 4 (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, givememyleg bets $2.5, MP2 folds, Button calls $2.50, SB folds, UTG folds.
River: ($9) 8 (2 players)
givememyleg bets $4, Button raises to $10, givememyleg just calls to be safe????
OK I think I should have bet more on the turn for one. For two, villian is a decent player, and has been pretty tag. I can not see him having AA KK or TT because I am sure he would bet this. I also doubt JQ because of the flush draw on the turn, but he could have flat called with it. I also doubt 88.. I don't think he would have called turn. I want to get as much value out of my sets as possible... push or call?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($7.05)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP1 ($1.50)
MP2 ($13.40)
givememyleg ($62.15)
Button ($7)
SB ($3.55)
BB ($14.35)
Preflop: givememyleg is CO with 6 , 7 .
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, givememyleg calls $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($5.10) J , 5 , 8 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $0.25, givememyleg raises to $3, Button calls $3, BB raises to $13.35, UTG folds, MP2 calls $12.15 (All-In), givememyleg calls $10.35 because of the draw and odds?
I am probably facing a set here, but I have an oesd / fd. Also, is it possible my flush may be tainted? Still do I gamboool here?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG+1 ($6.30)
MP1 ($7.40)
MP2 ($21.15)
MP3 ($25.60)
CO ($10.70)
Button ($12.45)
SB ($26.85)
BB ($8.55)
givememyleg ($23.45)
Preflop: givememyleg is UTG with Q , Q . CO posts a blind of $0.35.
givememyleg raises to $1, 5 folds, Button calls $1, 2 folds.
Flop: ($2.70) 7 , 3 , 8 (2 players)
givememyleg bets $2, Button calls $2.
Turn: ($6.70) 4 (2 players)
givememyleg checks, Button checks.
River: ($6.70) J (2 players)
givememyleg checks, Button checks.
I am playing scared... should I value bet the river?
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IowaSkinsFan
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You should'nt always expect the worst. On the first hand you definately can put him on a range in which pushing is +EV. It's way more likely he has two pair from the preflop action.
2nd hand definately call
3rd hand, again don't expect the worst everytime. BET the turn, and see what happens from there.
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Lukie
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hand 1: I'd probably jam this turn a bit harder and value bet the river a little more agressively. As played, standard should be to just call IMO. If I push here, it speaks volumes for what I think of my opponent.
hand 2: Just get it in somehow. Folding here shouldn't even be an option. If this makes you uncomfortable, just fold pf. This is about as good of a flop, save for a flopped nut straight, that you are going to see.
hand 3: I think I bet this turn, obvious fold to a raise. If he's hyper aggro and you think he'll float your flop bet with a wide range and bet with any 2 when checked to, I can see arguments for a c/c. If he can only call your flop bet with a draw or a big made hand, juts c/f. hearts and 65 both got there. These kinds of spots are tough and reads help tremendously.
As played, I'd bet this river for value, maybe $4.50 or so.
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