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buck
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03-09-2007, 12:54 AM
Post subject: JJ, standard set?
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Seattle
Posts: 79
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Felt great on the flop, probably should have bet a little more, on the turn though with the reraise... I just felt like I was behind to a str or something.
I only played about 10 hands with the villian.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($10.90)
CO ($7.95)
Hero ($11)
SB ($6.35)
BB ($19.25)
UTG ($7)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , J .
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.6, SB calls $0.55, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $0.50.
Flop: ($2) J , 9, A (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.6, SB calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60.
Turn: ($3.80) K (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1, MP raises to $2, Hero calls $1, SB calls $1.
River: ($9.80) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $3, Hero calls $3, SB folds.
Final Pot: $15.80
Whether I won or not, I have found myself in these situations before, I just want to get others input.
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IowaSkinsFan
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General advice:
Raise and bet every street with a set.
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Miffed22001
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lets get it all in on the turn, if we got gutshotted, meh. They have two pair more often here than a turned gutshot.
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Muzzard
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cheshire, UK
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Bet more on the flop around 1.50. Reraise the turn AI - if one of them sucked out with a gutshot so be it. These are the kind of players you want to play.
You've still got legitimate outs on the river if by chance one of them has hit the GS
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Hornsta9
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Bet more on the flop and the turn. You are giving them good odds to draw otherwise.
I would say $1.5 on the flop, assuming 2 calls that $6 pot on turn you can then get it all in.
As played I am 4bet pushing the turn here.
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buck
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Seattle
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Thanks for the posts. Suggestions taken, and as you probably guessed, he did hit his GS str.
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bbqsquirrel
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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It was an open-ended not a gutshot (QT right?)
By the way bet full pot on the flop. $0.6 into a drawy board and a $2 pot is recipe for disaster.
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bigspenda73
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The small flop bet is in all actuallity a large leak. You need to bet at least 3/4 the pot if not full pot. This is a great flop for JJ at this level as these donkeys get married to Ax so easily. You need to figure out how you betting and another player calling can get all the money in the middle.
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KoRnholio
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
The small flop bet is in all actuallity a large leak. You need to bet at least 3/4 the pot if not full pot. This is a great flop for JJ at this level as these donkeys get married to Ax so easily. You need to figure out how you betting and another player calling can get all the money in the middle.
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QFT. Also QT is an open-ended straight draw on the 9JA flop. Don't give the donks odds to call your bet.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Ash256
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That flop is far too drawy to bet 0.6. You want to exploit the flushdraws/OESDs and make them call with incorrect odds. 2/3 pot+ sounds good, maybe full pot at 10NL. Generally, unless there is an extremely obvious hand out there that beats you and your opponents are telling you they've got it (like 88 on an 8d9dTd board) you should find a way of getting it in. Plan out your betting sizes. You want to get $10 in the pot over three streets, which is more likely to get you paid? 2 on flop, 3 on turn, 5 on river? etc.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ash256
. You want to get $10 in the pot over three streets, which is more likely to get you paid? 2 on flop, 3 on turn, 5 on river? etc.
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True but I don't like your bet sizing.
Disclaimer: this only applies to $25nl and below
I like pot-3/4pot-whatever the hell is left. I like making a larger turn bet and actually having less behind on the river. Why? Well, I commit myself and my opponent at the same time and seeing how we have a larger equity in the pot we definitely want to do this. Also, a bit of psychological play comes in when you have to call less on the river than you did on the turn. If you want to get fully paid off you don't want someone having to call 1/2 their stack off on the river.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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bet 80% of pot every st
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