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Old 02-22-2005, 10:02 AM     Post subject: a JJ question... #1 (permalink)  
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Ok, apologies once again for the lack of precise HH, I will try and get into the habit of producing them (I promise!)

I am just after some advice (and hopefully some solace!) on how I played one hand.

Right, it is a $5 Poker Room SnG. I have only played about 4 or 5 hands out of the 20-odd that have been passed, won a couple of little pots and had one nice pick up which moves me up to about $2175.

Then comes this hand ……

Blinds 25/50
I am UTG+2 and dealt pocket Jacks.

Now I realise that they are not a super strong hand, but still for me a raise here (?!) which I promptly do, 3xBB – 150 (maybe I could have gone stronger 4x? 5x?)

Player next to me calls

Short stack 2 seats later (3 after me) moves all-in for $580 (he has been yo-yo-ing in chips since the off and has just lost a big pot)

Folded round to me, I call, other player folds here.

I show JJ, he shows A6o. Bang, A 8 8 on the flop, no J in sight after that.

Sure, it didn’t break me, but I ended up on the bubble and I was left a little puzzled by this hand because

1. If he’s been paying attention, he must have me pegged as a tight player and should have me pegged as tight-aggressive. Am I just to put this down to the fact that I play on $5 tables and people just DON’T pay attention?
2. Why move on A6 when u are not in THAT much trouble (still have nearly $600 – 12xBB – in chips)?
3. Do people think he actually wanted a call here?
4. Do people think I actually should have called here?

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Old 02-22-2005, 10:28 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Oh, forgot about this earlier. Let me just check the odds on this with people ……

The pot = my 150 raise + next players 150 call + his 580 all in + 75 blinds = 955
Another 430 to me will leave the total pot at 1385.
So my odds are 430/1385 (Right?!) = ~31%

If I have JJ and he has QQ, KK or AA, I am a 4:1 underdog and this is a crap call
If he has TT or less, I am the 4:1 favourite and this is a very good call
If, as I thought, he had Ace ‘n’ face, I am about 55% to win and this call is still good
In the actual circumstances, A6o makes me a huge favourite and again this is a good call.

I’ve at least worked this out right, haven’t I?!?
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:59 AM     Post subject: Re: a JJ question... #3 (permalink)  
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1. If he’s been paying attention, he must have me pegged as a tight player and should have me pegged as tight-aggressive. Am I just to put this down to the fact that I play on $5 tables and people just DON’T pay attention?
I play exclusively on PokerRoom and have noticed that in some $5 rooms, I am the only one paying attention. Unless he took a bad beat, having lost nearly 2/3rds of his chips by the second level is usually indicative of a person who doesn't play well...which means he will push with anything. I don't know if a higher bet would have shaken him from his push...he saw the ace and decided now is the time.
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2. Why move on A6 when u are not in THAT much trouble (still have nearly $600 – 12xBB – in chips)?
4 digit stack envy. I really think this occurs! Even though he can make nearly 8 runs around the ttable, he feels that because he is below a 1,000 he is shortstacked. I'm guessing he would push with any pocket pair and any hand with an A in it.
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3. Do people think he actually wanted a call here?
I think so. These types usually suck postflop and would lose thier nerve if they just called. Probably figured this was the best way to get back into the tourney.

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4. Do people think I actually should have called here?
I think it was an OK call. Jacks are tricky as you have 3 overcards that can hurt you. You were still about 70% preflop to beat him. Let me ask you....if you knew he was holding A6, would you have called preflop? If so, then you made the right decision.
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