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Old 11-12-2006, 05:38 PM     Post subject: JJ on Q high flop. #1 (permalink)  
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Ive been trying out 100NL for the past couple of days. less than 10 minutes into my first session I ran KK into AA so that sucked a little. Im starting to settle in a bit now but still occasionally getting the FPS problem of thinking everyones bluffing me. Villain in this hand is fairly loose/passive 36/3.3. Is this the super easiest instafold ever on the flop? I called it thinking I would probably get a free showdown unless he had a monster.

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UTG+1 ($101.70)
MP1 ($235.95)
MP2 ($56.80)
CO ($42)
Hero ($108.85)
SB ($186.80)
BB ($42.35)
UTG ($157.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J.
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) Q, 9, 2 (2 players)
MP2 bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($23.50) 3 (2 players)
MP2 bets $17, Hero folds.

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Old 11-12-2006, 10:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 [quote]Villain in this hand is fairly loose/passive 36/3.3[quote]If his passiveness is the same postflop, fold the flop.

If villain is more aggressive postflop I'd consider raising. Calling looking for a free showdown is the worst option imho, there are too many draws around.

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Old 11-13-2006, 08:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Sometimes I play it like this just to get a feel for how often and how big he's following up on the turn. People are so FoS that I float a lot of flops. That said, a fold is prudent.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:18 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I definitely use my position here.

I raise flop

I check turn

Depending on turn and river cards, I usually call river anything up to half pot and fold to anything more.

This is my line against unknowns, I adjust the line accordingly to diff kinds of players.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:30 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I would raise the flop to $16.

What Q can he limp with then call the big preflop raise? KQ / QJ maybe, maybe not. Unless he's really passive I'd expect AQ to raise 1st. QQ? Unlikely, surely a preflop reraise.

If he's trying to buy the pot he may reasonably assume that you're likely to raise the flop with AQ; once you flat call the 3 is a safe card and he can take a second shot at it.

I reckon your likely to be ahead in the hand.
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