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Old 05-12-2006, 07:20 AM     Post subject: JJ overpair #1 (permalink)  
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My 1 week 15 buy-in losing streak continued this morning, with 2 and a half buy-ins disappearing, all of it from one table. One of the hands was this. How could I have played this better?

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($26.60)
SB ($7.55)
BB ($38.10)
UTG ($24.60)
UTG+1 ($27.50)
MP1 ($39.80)
MP2 ($11.75)
MP3 ($14.65)
CO ($6.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 raises to $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($5.15) 3, 7, 3 (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $2.75.

Turn: ($11.40) 5 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($11.40) 9 (2 players)
MP3 bets $10.65 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $22.05
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jackvance
Old 05-12-2006, 09:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Well.. with 5 people in the pot, your jacks are pretty useless postflop unless you hit a set. Is MP2 tight or is there a good chance that he's overplaying a semi-hand? Either way, I'd definately raise him preflop if the table is that loose that a 4BB raise makes for a 5 people pot on a routinely basis. Here you want to go in with a more marginal hand like 56s.. if you have a strong hand, you have to isolate.

Postflop I think you did ok. I would probably have raised that pissy minbet a bit more on the flop though. Afterwards, it's an obvious slowplay of what is probably a 3. "Damn he didn't fall for my slowplay on the turn, I want to cash in so I'll just lead-push the river".. you see this a lot, is always a made hand.
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think your fold was a good one. I am very weary of the minimum bet in a multiway pot, especially with that flop. It seems strange he would simply call your raise after betting out and the check on the turn looks like he wants you to make another stab at the pot (thinking you missed the flop completely) and the river bet looks like he is overbetting to make his hand look like a bluff. He would have shown you trips if you called
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Need reads, but without them:

Raise preflop; you have a good hand on the button, may as well use your position. Raise that flop a bit harder; pop it up to $4+, then you can slow down a bit...

btw; I like the check behind + the fold, you didnt improve and were beat here imo
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