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Old 12-16-2007, 02:59 AM     Post subject: JJ facing river shove.Bluff or monster? #1 (permalink)  
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Laggy Villan is capable of making plays. What do you think?
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UTG ($25.60)
Hero ($47.15)
MP2 ($8)
CO ($49.65)
Button ($23.95)
SB ($14.15)
BB ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 5, T, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3.8, SB folds, UTG calls $3.80.

Turn: ($11.60) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, UTG calls $8.

River: ($27.60) T (2 players)
UTG bets $12.55 (All-In), Hero ?

Final Pot: $52.70
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Old 12-16-2007, 03:28 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Villain's playing that pretty passively for a LAG.

Looks like either a slowplay or a failed flush draw bluff from a donk chasing without odds. The call depends on how much you trust that he's actually LAG I guess.
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Old 12-16-2007, 03:35 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I meant LAG in a bad way. Like he's too lose and is able to make moves on you.
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Old 12-16-2007, 03:57 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Your bet sizing on flop and turn put you into that spot.

He'd probably check/shove this turn with any hand that can beat TP/overpairs (like sets, QT etc).

I think, it's a call, because you need him to bluff his bricked draws 25% of the time and he has 2 spades more often, than Ten/Qx.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Easy call if he makes plays.
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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While he made some semi- bluffs with 2nd pair and what not, I haven't seen villan play that passive before(he was the agressor every time I've seen him make moves), thus me thinking AT(which is stupid, looking at it now)
Villan had UTG has 8s 9s (one pair, tens).
Hero has Js Jc (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $52.70.
Took a very long time for me to call. I guess I'm a pussy because I thought it was a ballsy play on his part and he could have had AT.
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 The board pairing is very telling, and you're getting great odds.
 
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:03 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Yeah, easy call.
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