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06-04-2008, 06:47 PM
Post subject: JJ facing aggresion on t high flop...
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villian is 25/14/2.5 over 105 hands
do i smooth call here? do i raise the flop? am I trying to get it in here?
this is prob my biggest weakness/leak of my game are pairs like this in this situation.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($23.35)
CO ($38.60)
Button ($18.10)
SB ($36.50)
BB ($5)
Hero ($24.25)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($13.85)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J , J .
Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, CO raises to $2.5, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50.
Flop: ($5.35) 5, 8, T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, [color=#CC3333]Hero ???
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badgers
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call. raising over-reps your hand as there are no draws.
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pokerfan
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it depends on his cb stat. Normally, i'd lead out on this flop vs passive tight opps and shut down & c/f in later streets.
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i would lead to him about 3 and fold to big reraise
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badgers
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
it depends on his cb stat. Normally, i'd lead out on this flop vs passive tight opps and shut down & c/f in later streets.
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wow i missed this before this line is terrible. why are you donking into the raiser here? only better calls and the only time worse does call it's AK floating you and you intend to fold.
Please explain!?
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XTR1000
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with a read he´s 3betting wider than usual Id 4bet this pre. given stats I´d call two streets.
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xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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Robb
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Originally Posted by badgers
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
it depends on his cb stat. Normally, i'd lead out on this flop vs passive tight opps and shut down & c/f in later streets.
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wow i missed this before this line is terrible. why are you donking into the raiser here? only better calls and the only time worse does call it's AK floating you and you intend to fold.
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The flop favors the person who flatted the 3bet, not the 3bettor. If he's a decent player, he should be very worried by this board. I favor leading the flop and calling the turn. XTR 's post is good, too.
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Fnord
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Call, lets see a turn.
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badgers
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Originally Posted by badgers
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
it depends on his cb stat. Normally, i'd lead out on this flop vs passive tight opps and shut down & c/f in later streets.
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wow i missed this before this line is terrible. why are you donking into the raiser here? only better calls and the only time worse does call it's AK floating you and you intend to fold.
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The flop favors the person who flatted the 3bet, not the 3bettor. If he's a decent player, he should be very worried by this board. I favor leading the flop and calling the turn. XTR 's post is good, too. |
wat you mean he thinks we have a set? is an overpair going to fold to one measly $3 bet on the flop then we shut down?
hint: the answer is no
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Fnord
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Leading this flop sucks against a strong player. He will get away from air sometimes, raise you off your hand others and mix up flatting and raising stuff that has you crushed.
I see that line all the time at the cardroom and it's soo soo bad...
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Robb
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Thanks badgers and fnord. I'm thinking about this one.
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I hate reraising preflop and I hate leading this flop. Check/call
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