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Borax
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11-17-2005, 11:39 AM
Post subject: JJ; How much do I bet here and how do I continue?
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Flush
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NL 0.25/0.5$ 10 players
Dealt to Hero in MP2
:Jc::Jh:
SB post 0.25$
BB post 0.5$
UTG calls 0.5$
folds
Hero raises to 2$
folds
SB raises all in for 3.25$
BB folds
UTG calls 3$
Hero reraise 9$ (remaining stack 40$)
UTG calls 7.5$ (remaining stack 120$)
Flop
:Kh: 
UTG checks
Hero
How much do I bet here and how do I continue?
Read on UTG: Agressive, confident, plays any two cards, capable of bluffing and trapping, had been dominating the table for a while,
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r8ed
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4-of-a-Kind
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I go for 1/2 to 3/4 pot and see what he does. If you bet too high or low he may think you missed the flop and take advantage. If he reraises, then I guess you can choose to call or lay them down. If he doesn't have a K or T, then he'll probably fold to your flop bet because otherwise he has to figure he's way behind.
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PokerPatNEU
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Full House
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Originally Posted by r8ed
I go for 1/2 to 3/4 pot and see what he does. If you bet too high or low he may think you missed the flop and take advantage. If he reraises, then I guess you can choose to call or lay them down. If he doesn't have a K or T, then he'll probably fold to your flop bet because otherwise he has to figure he's way behind.
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Unless he wants to put a play on you and guess that YOU don't have a K by check raising you with any two, since he has been super aggressive and trapping. This is the perfect flop to check-raise bluff heads up. If hero doesn't hold a K, its going to be hard for him to continue with the rest of the hand. I expect a lot of the time you are going to get raised here if you make a standard sized continuation bet. I also expect that most of the time you have the best hand here. I think you have to gamble here by out aggressing this guy and hoping he doesn't have a K.
I think the rest of the hand probably went like this:
Hero bets 1/2 pot
Villain raises to 3x heros' bet
Hero folds or re-raises
Villain folds if he doesn't have a K, pushes if he does
Gamble?
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KoRnholio
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Given your read on him, what could he possibly have that he limped/called a small all in/called a big raise with?
IMO, this usually this looks is usually something like a middle pair he plans to try to stack you with. But if he's a donk, he could be limp/calling big with crap like T9s-QJs, KQo.. In which case you're either behind a Kx or ahead of a very likely draw.
I'd throw out a ~1/2 pot bet here then call down if I was confident he didn't have a king.
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Borax
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Flush
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Thanks for comments. The hand continued:
Flop
:Kh: 
UTG checks
Hero bets 10$
UTG calls
Turn

UTG checks
Hero
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Pelion
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If he has a small pair (most likely from preflop) then now he just has 2 pair with a really crappy kicker so he will probably fold if you bet.
I think the choice is check to induce a bluff on the river which you call and hope he doesnt make a full house (since you said he is capable of bluffing), or bet (2/3 pot or so to not look weak) then check behind on the river.
I dont think its worth betting the river because i dont think he will call a river bet with a hand that doesnt beat you.
I probably just go ahead and bet then check behind on the river but then at my stakes people will call any odds for the flush/straight draws. If you think he will try to bluff with an underpair then i think checking is probably best.
edit: if he has a K or a 10 then unlucky
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Borax
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Flush
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If I bet I'm all in for my remaining 30$ here. So, should I push this turn?
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Borax
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Flush
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Hand continued:
Flop
  
UTG checks
Hero bets 10$
UTG calls
Turn

UTG checks
Hero checks
River

UTG Bet All in
Hero folds
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'Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.'
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