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Old 05-18-2007, 05:14 AM     Post subject: J-10s 200NL #1 (permalink)  
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 I dislike my call of the original raise preflop, seeing as i left myself exposed to a light 3bettor. Anyways the flop came out ok for me, and when he bet i decided to c/r AI.

Against a standard 3bet range:

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45,540 games 0.047 secs 968,936 games/sec

Board: Ks Ts 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.105% 42.44% 00.67% 19325 305.00 { JdTd }
Hand 1: 56.895% 56.23% 00.67% 25605 305.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }


Against a looser 3bet range (a range similar to my own):


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83,160 games 0.015 secs 5,544,000 games/sec

Board: Ks Ts 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.135% 57.12% 01.01% 47505 840.00 { JdTd }
Hand 1: 41.865% 40.85% 01.01% 33975 840.00 { JJ+, AQs+, T7s+, 96s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, AQo+ }



However, this hand was against an unknown. i had <20 hands on villan, and no notes. Is this play bad?

FullTiltPoker Game #2450683591: Table Apache Hills - $1/$2

Hero: ($203)
Villan: ($377.35)
7 other players

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero: [Jd Td]
3 folds
Player 1: raises to $7
Hero: calls $7
Villan: raises to $24
4 folds, including Player 1
Hero: calls $17
*** FLOP *** [Ks 10s 9c] ($56)
Hero: checks
Villan: bets $50
Hero: raises to $179, and is all in
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop is very interesting. Just what is a "standard 3-bet range these days". I think there is at least 2 popular ranges common at the 100 games and up.

I don't see another way to play the flop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:30 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Second reraising range is definately too loose. I think lower pairs like 88+ and fewer suited connecters. I would probably just muck this preflop aswell. This could be a tricky hand to play OOP against an aggressive opponent.

That being said I can't decide if this is spew or not. AA, KK, AK, TT and 99 are all calling, QQ, JJ, AQ are folding aswell as other random junk. With all this I still dont know if its a good play or not...
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:03 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 his squeeze range could be huge. He could just as easily have AQ/AJ/QQ and maybe 99/TT here.
I think you have enough behind to force hands that scare the board to fold, and considering the squeezing range here may not be super tight i like how we played it.
ofc, this guy could be super tight and we just pushed a gutshot into a set but ya' know
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:35 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 it seems i could have avoided this whole spot if i had just folded preflop, but i was of the opinion that his 3bet range was wider than average due to the increased amount of dead money in the pot and therefore decided to call.

I like my flop c/r AI, but i am hoping to get more feedback on that. Any factors that i have not mentioned that may skew his range one way or another?
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