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Old 01-15-2009, 01:22 AM     Post subject: ITT You Evaluate My 3 Barrel #1 (permalink)  
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CO ($400)
Button ($406)
SB ($400)
BB ($483)
UTG ($482.20)
UTG+1 ($623.35)
MP1 ($400)
MP2 ($644.50)

Preflop: ACE JACK UNSUITed
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $8, 1 fold, MP2 calls $8, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($26) 6, 4, J (3 players)
BB bets $20, UTG+1 calls $20, 1 fold

Turn: ($66) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $44, UTG+1 calls $44

River: ($154) 10 (2 players)
BB bets $120, UTG+1 raises to $551.35 (All-In), BB ?

i haven't been sitting that long villain is secr32 he runs like 12/10 i think this is a fold my image should not be too great though im more interested in if you think its too thin.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:17 AM #2 (permalink)  
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It's hard to tell if your line is thin when we don't know your cards
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 I like flop+turn and don't mind the river as long as you snap-folded.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:52 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I would never lead the flop so idk. Against secr this is probably a slightlyyyyyyyy plusEV call
 
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:35 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 i prefer river check call.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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i prefer river check call.
this seems bad
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:23 AM #8 (permalink)  
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leading flop is bad

weird how i think you've turned AJ into a bluffy hand vs a 12/10. bet sizing seems rly bad

imo i rly dislike everything.

once he calls turn your toast.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:58 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 There's no wai in a million years that I call this.

Da GOAT is right about the turn call... could have had TT at that moment but that's as weak as it gets. I put villain on AA, JJ, or TT.


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i prefer river check call.
this seems bad
now i gotta think some more

If hero bets river he's hoping that better hands fold or worse hands call, right. A nit-tag reg villain isn't calling this river bet with less than tptk. He's also unlikely to fold AJ. This is why i think betting is bad.

So checking makes sense.

Means that options are check-call or check-fold.
Hero's line is strong thus far, but looks like he's given up.

I note the argument that villain is unlikely to bet a worse hand when checked to, but I think this is over-stated. Villains bet rivers when checked to more often than they should - even when they have showdown value and should be checking behind. Also, if hero is happy putting in $120 as a bet with no value to be had out of it, then why not just as happily put in $120 with a hand that has showdown value. Gonna be ahead 1/3+ I expect?

check-folding feels too weak here.

as played i think he has to fold.
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Old 01-23-2009, 05:04 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Why are we betting the flop so big?
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:14 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Why are we betting the flop so big?
So we can set up a pot-sized shove on the river for villain?
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