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EricE

01-13-2006, 04:45 PM Post subject: This isn't a blind war anymore

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Savvy33 had been at the table 20mins or so (he sat down with $50). In that time he had totally livened up a passive table. He was near maniac status. Betting $20 into $2 pots. Seeing every flop, etc. His last hand he had overbet the pot on the river and been called, he mucked.

This starts as a blind war but I take it too far. I completely believed he missed but I obviously wasn't listening. Let this be a lesson to you kids (hehe). I should have recalled Fnords words yesterday that he will splash around a little in blind wars but if the opponent wants to take it deep he lets it go.

Hand #175652598
Started: Thu Jan 12 21:55:31 2006

Seat 1:SoupNa57 with 128.05
Seat 2:ubaby8081 with 95.21
Seat 3:MDTurf with 41.45
Seat 4:kurdo8 with 19.50
Seat 5:biggswol with 43.65
Seat 6:TBsteamer with 34.50
Seat 7:Hero with 258.75
Seat 8:savvy33 with 60.40
Seat 9:HackAShaq with 90.00
Seat 10:OBIE with 229.65

savvy33 posts the large blind 1.00
Hero posts the small blind 0.50

Hole Cards:
Hero: 7d, Ad

Pre-flop:
all fold...
Hero: Raise 4.00
savvy33: Call 4.00

Flop (Board: Js, 8d, 7c):

Hero: Check
savvy33: Check

Turn (Board: Js, 8d, 7c, 5s):

Hero: Bet 4.00
savvy33: Raise 16.00
Hero: Call 16.00

River (Board: Js, 8d, 7c, 5s, 10d):

Hero: Check
savvy33: Bets 41.40
savvy33 is All in
Hero: Call 41.40

Showdown:

savvy33 shows: Jh, Jd (three of a kind, Jacks)

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Fnord

01-13-2006, 04:49 PM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

I would just complete pre-flop. He's not folding very often, we don't want him to and we want a small pot with lots of money behind to minimize our FtoP mistakes (folding) and aggrivate his (too much action.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

bencathers

01-13-2006, 07:24 PM

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Sometimes maniacs get hands (and that's how they make money). Don't ever get attached to bottom pair when you know there will be more opportunities to de-stack him later on

What was his pre-flop like? Did he re-raise a lot with what were seemingly marginal hands? When a maniac smooth calls a raise and then checks the flop, I get very, very scared (sometimes this indicates a monster or a strong hand, in an attempt to trap)

Dealer: bencathers has two pair, Aces and Deuces
Dealer: Tbags has two pair, Kings and Jacks
Dealer: Tbags finished the tournament in 256th place
Tbags [observer]: another scumbag gets there on this site lol

EricE

01-13-2006, 07:55 PM

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PF he was normal. He raised with good hands, limped all others. The problem is that my PFR disguised that he had a hand. I would expect a call from him with any two cards. Had I limped he “might” have raised though he is just as likely to check (trapping). Had he raised my limp I would have called “I don’t believe you” but it may have added just enough of a clue that he has something to get away from it.

Regardless, in the future I am not going to get crazy with blind wars.

He left the table about 30mins later. He built his stack up to 230ish with some made straights, then lost it down to $50 again. His last hand was against me where he bought the pot on the flop with an AI to a $15 pot. Flop was T high. I held AT, leading out $7 (a bit weak into this pot as he had put me off my game). I folded to his AI and he shows AJo and left the table. He did have the Ac for a backdoor flush draw though. <shrug>

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Fnord

01-13-2006, 08:01 PM

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...because you got spanked in a pot with bottom (or whatever) pair, you started folding TPTK to this clown?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

EricE

01-13-2006, 08:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

...because you got spanked in a pot with bottom (or whatever) pair, you started folding TPTK to this clown?

Lol. Yes. I reverted to my weak ass (carefull) self. Baby steps Fnord.

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Fnord

01-13-2006, 09:04 PM

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When I make that fold to that player, I'm done for the day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

BankItDrew

01-13-2006, 09:30 PM

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Be warry of maniacs checking the flop.

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bencathers

01-13-2006, 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

When I make that fold to that player, I'm done for the day...

Best advice ever when dealing with this type of player. This is going to lead to tilt

Fnord

01-13-2006, 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bencathers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

When I make that fold to that player, I'm done for the day...

Best advice ever when dealing with this type of player. This is going to lead to tilt

Not so much tilt. Sometimes I just don't have enough gamble in me to play my A game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

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