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Old 12-01-2005, 03:40 AM     Post subject: Instacall with set? #1 (permalink)  
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This guy bought in short and pushed many times. He was loose and showed down some poor hands. I figured I would call and hope he was bluffing or hope the board paired. There are two players to act after me. Anyone disagree with this move?

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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed Nov 30 22:41:34 EST 2005
Table Table 66468 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: emetique ( $32.90)
Seat 2: baracuda_74 ( $19.25)
Seat 3: CowCow777 ( $11.26)
Seat 4: zflynn ( $30.65)
Seat 5: Baaash ( $42.09)
Seat 6: timidgabe ( $15.01)
Seat 8: munk8 ( $14.97)
Seat 9: jandje ( $33.05)
Seat 10: mr_zee ( $5.05)
munk8 posts small blind (0.10)
jandje posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ 4s, 4h ]
mr_zee raises (1) to 1
emetique folds.
baracuda_74 folds.
CowCow777 calls (1)
zflynn folds.
Baaash folds.
timidgabe folds.
munk8 calls (0.90)
jandje calls (0.75)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 4c, Ac ]
munk8 bets (13.97)
munk8 is all-In.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:33 AM #2 (permalink)  
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If he's really been pushing with crap hands, I'd either put him on a pair of aces or two pair and call.

Depends on how bad the hands he's been pushing are.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:35 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'd probably call it. If the stacks behind me were larger I might let it go, but they are tiny.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:27 AM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah, I call here all day every day and twice on Sundays.
If you had the nut flush on a board like this, who pushes? This SCREAMS AK, AQ to me, and doesn't want anybody drawing. he could also have 66 or AA, but if he does, I say nh and reload.
 
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yeah, I call here all day every day and twice on Sundays.
If you had the nut flush on a board like this, who pushes? This SCREAMS AK, AQ to me, and doesn't want anybody drawing. he could also have 66 or AA, but if he does, I say nh and reload.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:07 AM #6 (permalink)  
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folding isnt an option. Because everyone else is short stacked too this is an easy one. Just call.

If they were bigger stacks you would be struggling between calling, minraising and pushing..
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:02 PM #7 (permalink)  
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yeah, I call here all day every day and twice on Sundays.
If you had the nut flush on a board like this, who pushes? This SCREAMS AK, AQ to me, and doesn't want anybody drawing. he could also have 66 or AA, but if he does, I say nh and reload.
exactly.
I figured AK too for the reasons you state. He had A8 or something foolish and the the other two folded behind. I got lucky because another club fell on the turn and he didn't even have a club. I wonder if the folders had a club. They must not have since they had odds to call.
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Instacall. No made flush is going to play this way.

If you run into a made-flush you still have a 30% chance of hitting a full house.


 
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:26 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I figured AK too for the reasons you state. He had A8 or something foolish and the the other two folded behind. I got lucky because another club fell on the turn and he didn't even have a club. I wonder if the folders had a club. They must not have since they had odds to call.
Actually you just didn't get unlucky. Even if he had a club in his hand you would have made the call with the best hand and got drawn out against. I don't think there is any question as to whether a call is correct here or not. I probably push over regardless of the stack sizes behind, because if i call and one of them pushes over I am calling anyway and I want as few people in the pot as possible with 3 clubs on the flop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:00 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Easy fold.

Jk. I'll call flopped trips every single opportunity.


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Old 12-01-2005, 07:53 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I probably push over regardless of the stack sizes behind, because if i call and one of them pushes over I am calling anyway and I want as few people in the pot as possible with 3 clubs on the flop.
I was going to push, but the realized those stacks were covered.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:03 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Not only do I call, I reraise.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:57 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Raise.

Seriously, I usually check-raise all-in on these boards, or just push, but I've been getting burned lately.

Burned or not, I raise.
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:29 AM #14 (permalink)  
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yes raise is very important here, if someone has higher trips than you, tip your hat to them and reload.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:04 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Guys - the two stacks behind are smaller than the amount raised so it's not necessary.

Seat 3: CowCow777 ( $11.26)
Seat 8: munk8 ( $14.97)
Seat 10: mr_zee ( $5.05)

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Old 12-02-2005, 04:11 AM #16 (permalink)  
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a made flush doesn't push on that... the Kc or Qc tends to though
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