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Old 05-20-2005, 07:08 AM     Post subject: Ill-fated slow-play. #1 (permalink)  
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This guy was calling me a "fish" after this hand because I "sucked out" on him.

PokerStars Game #1731782662: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/20 - 02:53:05 (ET)
Table 'Asterope II' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: dsaxton ($284.75 in chips)
Seat 2: TEAM HOLE ($275.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Perfectset ($210.05 in chips)
Seat 4: 123shank ($278.60 in chips)
Seat 5: rezanyc ($214.90 in chips)
Seat 6: medialinn ($179.10 in chips)
Seat 7: KarlSpakler ($230.65 in chips)
Seat 9: SLY STONE ($101.95 in chips)
rezanyc: posts small blind $1
medialinn: posts big blind $2
RikaKazak: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [6s 6h]
KarlSpakler: folds
SLY STONE: calls $2
dsaxton: calls $2
TEAM HOLE: folds
Perfectset: calls $2
123shank: folds
rezanyc: folds
medialinn: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s 5c]
dsaxton said, "who is that girl in your picture, perfect?"
medialinn: checks
SLY STONE: checks
dsaxton: checks
Perfectset: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 5s 5c] [As]
medialinn: checks
SLY STONE: checks
dsaxton: checks
Perfectset: checks
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s 5c As] [6c]
medialinn: checks
SLY STONE: checks
dsaxton: bets $6
Perfectset: raises $14 to $20
medialinn: folds
SLY STONE: folds
dsaxton: raises $14 to $34
Perfectset: raises $174.05 to $208.05 and is all-in
dsaxton: calls $174.05
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Perfectset: shows [5d Ad] (a full house, Fives full of Aces)
dsaxton: shows [6s 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
dsaxton collected $422.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $425.10 | Rake $3
Board [4s 5s 5c As 6c]
Seat 1: dsaxton showed [6s 6h] and won ($422.10) with a full house, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 2: TEAM HOLE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Perfectset showed [5d Ad] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Aces
Seat 4: 123shank (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rezanyc (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: medialinn (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 7: KarlSpakler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SLY STONE folded on the River
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Old 05-20-2005, 01:02 PM #2 (permalink)  
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That. Was. Awesome.


 
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:18 PM #3 (permalink)  
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That. Was. Awesome.
Quoted for truth
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:32 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Awesome and brutal. That guy really ought to think about not giving his opponents two free cards.
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:11 PM #5 (permalink)  
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4 people in the hand, 2 spades on flop, tasty str8 draw, limped pot, and no bet?!?!?!

Mmm, tartar sauce.

I bet he was patting himself on the back when he made the full on the turn "Man , I rock!"
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:29 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You fish. You really shouldn't chase your two-outer by calling his turn check.
I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.
 
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Old 05-20-2005, 06:10 PM #7 (permalink)  
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You fish. You really shouldn't chase your two-outer by calling his turn check.
Hahaha.

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Old 05-21-2005, 12:52 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Ah, the perfect example of how slow play will bite you in the ass.

I try not to slow play at all. I will do it occasionally, but for the most part, I hit it hard.

Very nice my friend.
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Old 05-21-2005, 02:51 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Wow that paid off nicely for you! Nice river.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:13 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Ah, the perfect example of how slow play will bite you in the ass.

I try not to slow play at all. I will do it occasionally, but for the most part, I hit it hard.

Very nice my friend.
I don't either. One reason being that I want players respecting my bets so I can pick up pots when I don't have a hand, and if I'm able to show down a monster hand after fast-playing, I'll be more likely to achieve that result. Another reason is that, unless you're up against a super aggressive opponent, the risks of slow-playing a strong but potentially vulnerable hand are rarely justified by the risks. If I'm holding a hand like J-10, and the flop comes 10, 10, 3, I would never check as some players like to do. I think the fallacy of slow-playing this type of hand is that there is very little profit in leading out, and so checking is more profitable, but the truth is that almost no line of play here is very profitable. You may win a small bit of additional profit through checking and someone catching top pair on the turn and betting, but there are no hands you can beat which are going to give any significant amount of action as a result of a slow-play, and checking invites the tremendous risk of someone hitting a backdoor draw, costing you a large pot. So, by checking, you risk losing a large pot for the sake of winning a medium-small one, which isn't a sound gamble.
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:37 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Ah, the perfect example of how slow play will bite you in the ass.

I try not to slow play at all. I will do it occasionally, but for the most part, I hit it hard.

Very nice my friend.
I don't either. One reason being that I want players respecting my bets so I can pick up pots when I don't have a hand, and if I'm able to show down a monster hand after fast-playing, I'll be more likely to achieve that result. Another reason is that, unless you're up against a super aggressive opponent, the risks of slow-playing a strong but potentially vulnerable hand are rarely justified by the risks. If I'm holding a hand like J-10, and the flop comes 10, 10, 3, I would never check as some players like to do. I think the fallacy of slow-playing this type of hand is that there is very little profit in leading out, and so checking is more profitable, but the truth is that almost no line of play here is very profitable. You may win a small bit of additional profit through checking and someone catching top pair on the turn and betting, but there are no hands you can beat which are going to give any significant amount of action as a result of a slow-play, and checking invites the tremendous risk of someone hitting a backdoor draw, costing you a large pot. So, by checking, you risk losing a large pot for the sake of winning a medium-small one, which isn't a sound gamble.
Well said.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:11 PM #12 (permalink)  
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there are times to slowplay, he picked a great one. hahahah.

nice freaking pot for 100nl.
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