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Old 08-20-2006, 10:41 PM     Post subject: If I call turn do I have to call the river? #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain has made several fishy plays, all of which have been of the bad-passive type. I stacked him 1 day earlier after reraising his QQ w my 66 on a K-6-x board.

oh and btw while 4 tabling i didn t notice that villain had limped. ugh. Didn't even notice he was in the hand until he bet the flop...

** Game ID 903364197 starting - 2006-08-20 02:40:56
** Arnage [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

-VILLAIN sitting in seat 1 with $196.65
- Challe50 sitting in seat 2 with $171.72
- pitn sitting in seat 3 with $52.38
- Educator sitting in seat 4 with $110.00 [Dealer]
- HERO sitting in seat 5 with $197.00
- mcer1 sitting in seat 6 with $156.75

HERO posted the small blind - $1.00
mcer1 posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to HERO : Jack of Clubs, King of Diamonds
VILLAIN called - $2.00
Challe50 folded
pitn folded
Educator folded
HERO raised - $6.50
mcer1 called - $6.50
VILLAIN called - $6.50

** Dealing the flop: King of Hearts, 3 of Hearts, 6 of Clubs
HERO checked
mcer1 checked
VILLAIN bet - $13.00
HERO called - $13.00
mcer1 folded

** Dealing the turn: 6 of Hearts
HERO checked
VILLAIN bet - $28.00
HERO called - $28.00

** Dealing the river: 5 of Clubs
HERO checked
VILLAIN bet - $60.00
HERO folded
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think I need to learn to block bet
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I really don't like check calling this flop esspecially if I was the preflop rasier.

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Old 08-21-2006, 12:45 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I really don't like check calling this flop esspecially if I was the preflop rasier.
Slightly off-topic but I do this a lot in blind wars - remember I thought there were only 2 of us.... - when I'm out of position hoping villain will put me on a steal/draw (two-tone flop).

This way I think I can extract most when I'm ahead, lose least when I'm behind (since I won't love folding TPGK heads up) and I don't want to build this pot.

By betting I'm usually only getting calls from draws and am likely getting reraised by a king which is not necessarily good since I beat many kings ppl will defend their blinds with... Plus, it messes w ppl when u constantly check top pair hu... allows for u to get lots of free cards OOP in later hands.

but I guess that's another thread. For this hand it would have helped to realize there were 3 ppl in pot

as played, do you call the river giveme?
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:57 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I fold this river. You have absolutely no idea what villian has and you can only beat a bluff.

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Old 08-21-2006, 06:56 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 k your avatar just made me *literally* laugh out loud all by myself for the millionth time I have to stop running up my post count admiring it...
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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