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Old 07-16-2007, 07:24 AM     Post subject: I play bad... AK hits king but till sucks #1 (permalink)  
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7-handed UTG I get
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I raise to 3BB (table is loose, calls off a lot, no point in more; plus, I've got a drawy type hand [sooted!] ... idk justified?)

4 callers (standard at this table- no fold'em holdem)

Flop comes:



Blinds folded some I'm first up post-flop.
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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this is the most standard thing i've ever seen in a poker advice forum
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Not necessarly standard.

I bet, but hope all deep stacks fold. Also, don't bother varying raise size preflop.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Check
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 Why check instead of bet?
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:59 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Why check instead of bet?
Our equity isn't all that hot against tighter calls and we pretty much crush loose pre-flop calls.

I think checking saves us more money than betting wins us. I also hate betting this only to surrender to a raise.

I'd check and see what's up. If the players really suck, 1/4 pot might be fun.
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 Then do you generally call down if board doesn't get worse and nobody seems to be in felt mode?
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:08 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Then do you generally call down if board doesn't get worse and nobody seems to be in felt mode?
It really depends on who did what as much as what they did. I almost never play in games like this online, so body language also plays a big part too. After checking I could fold and it doesn't cost a whole lot if it's a mistake. Betting out makes it harder to get away.

Yet another way I might play this is raise to 10x pre-flop, get tweedle-dumb and maybe tweedle-stupid to call. Then just felt it.
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:49 AM #9 (permalink)  
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As played:

I say "well how can I not bet this board..."
*stupid
and lead out 1/3- 1/2pot
*stupid

I get 4 callers.

Turn comes blank


I check for pot control
A minbet gets called around (I call)

River pairs the board and brings a flush
:Qs:

Gets checked around on the river.

Hands at showdown:

:Ks:
:As: :Qd:

trip queens takes it.

I played this hand way too passive methinks (preflop and on the flop).
 
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:17 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 bah! it's not that passive. You were probably 70-80% to win on that flop so I don't see anything wrong with checking here. checking with top pair top kicker instead of a c-bet on the flop is not that bad of a play.


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What was the limit of this game? It must be a micro limit for the players to be so terrible.
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