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i never had so much trouble with these overpair hands OOP

  
 
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:49 PM     Post subject: i never had so much trouble with these overpair hands OOP #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1: villain was 19.1/8.4/1.4 flop AF over 158 hands. i didn't think i should really felt my QQ here, any thoughts?

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MP1 ($190)
MP2 ($89.40)
Hero ($206.80)
CO ($258.70)
Button ($311.55)
SB ($72.65)
BB ($296.30)
UTG ($44.80)
UTG+1 ($100.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $20, CO calls $20, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $16.

Flop: ($63) 5, 9, 8 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $35, CO raises to $80, UTG+1 folds, Hero ?.

hand 2: villain was 18.3/7.8/2.4 flop AF over 420 hands and i didn't see him 3 bet a lot at this table, probable KK+ range??

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($357.85)
UTG+1 ($366.40)
MP1 ($194.65)
MP2 ($593.75)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($200.00)
BTN ($202.00)
SB ($876.30)
BB ($331.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, CO raises to $22, 3 folds, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($47, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $26, Hero calls $26

Turn: ($99, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $55
hero??

hand 3: villain is BankItDrew(19/8.2/2.3 over 452 hands) , a huge FTR donk , should i give much credit for his shove or just commit myself given that i already put 1/3 of my starting stack in the pot?
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($193.80)
UTG+1 ($200.00)
MP1 ($192.40)
MP2 ($200.00)
MP3 ($197.00)
CO ($63.80)
BTN ($127.85)
Hero ($215.30)
BB ($136.55)

Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, MP2 raises to $8, MP3 calls $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, 1 fold, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $28

Flop: ($82, 2 players)
Hero bets $50, MP3 raises to $150, Hero ?
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:17 PM #2 (permalink)  

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1. the cold call preflop from a player with those stats is probably something like TT+ AK and I don't see him suddenly turning JJ into a bluff here so I fold. I love it when tight players cold call a 3-bet, their ranges are normally super small and it's pretty easy to play postflop. His preflop range may be slightly wider because the initial raiser minraised, but I think this is exactly KK a lot, and maybe 88/99 if you think he calls with those preflop. I can't see QQ ever being good here.

2. I usually c/c flop, c/f turn in these spots but never feel great about it. I think it's best here though, c/f flop just feels too weak and anything else is overplaying.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

15,840 games 0.151 secs 104,900 games/sec

Board: 9d Qh Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.547% 42.22% 00.33% 6688 51.50 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 57.453% 57.13% 00.33% 9049 51.50 { QQ-99, AhKh }

I'm surprised to see us with that much equity actually, looks like you can't fold. Even taking out half of the JJ combinations you still have 35% equity.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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yeah, i agree that i have to call the shove in hand 3.
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