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Kiriath

03-06-2005, 11:28 AM Post subject: I love this hand

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Hand #4697377-2206 at Searights (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 06/Mar/05 07:25:57

Major Hassle is at seat 1 with $13.60.
jeff39 is at seat 4 with $10.
wh1sky01 is at seat 5 with $12.75.
boinkman is at seat 6 with $2.60.
JohnnyBRotten is at seat 7 with $17.65.
HEUTZENROEDER is at seat 8 with $20.65.
Kiriath is at seat 9 with $25.60.
The button is at seat 6.

JohnnyBRotten posts the small blind of $.10.
HEUTZENROEDER posts the big blind of $.25.
jeff39 posts out of turn for $.25.

Major Hassle: -- --
jeff39: -- --
wh1sky01: -- --
boinkman: -- --
JohnnyBRotten: -- --
HEUTZENROEDER: -- --
Kiriath: 2d 3d

Pre-flop:

Kiriath calls. Major Hassle folds. jeff39 checks.
wh1sky01 calls. boinkman folds. JohnnyBRotten
calls. HEUTZENROEDER checks.

Flop (board: 8d Ad Jh):

JohnnyBRotten checks. HEUTZENROEDER checks. Kiriath
bets $1.25. jeff39 folds. wh1sky01 folds.
JohnnyBRotten calls. HEUTZENROEDER folds.

Turn (board: 8d Ad Jh 3c):

JohnnyBRotten checks. Kiriath bets $3.75.
JohnnyBRotten calls.

River (board: 8d Ad Jh 3c Td):

JohnnyBRotten bets $2.40. Kiriath raises to $18.45.
JohnnyBRotten goes all-in for $12.40. Kiriath is
returned $6.05 (uncalled).

Showdown:

Kiriath shows 2d 3d.
Kiriath has 2d 3d 8d Ad Td: flush, ace high.
JohnnyBRotten shows Ah Th.
JohnnyBRotten has Ah Th Ad Jh Td: two pair, aces and tens.

Hand #4697377-2206 Summary:

$1.80 is raked from a pot of $36.05.
Kiriath wins $34.25 with flush, ace high.
----------------------------------------------------------------

I was playing wery loose at this table, showing down some terribly cards but still enough to win some pots cause ppl believed I had jackshit. Then above happens, I believe thats how to play a flushdraw =D

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JeffreyGB

03-06-2005, 04:57 PM Post subject: Re: I love this hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiriath

Hand #4697377-2206 at Searights (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 06/Mar/05 07:25:57

Kiriath is at seat 9 with $25.60.
The button is at seat 6.

Pre-flop:
Kiriath calls....

Flop (board: 8d Ad Jh):
JohnnyBRotten checks. HEUTZENROEDER checks. Kiriath
bets $1.25. jeff39 folds. wh1sky01 folds.
JohnnyBRotten calls. HEUTZENROEDER folds.

Turn (board: 8d Ad Jh 3c):
JohnnyBRotten checks. Kiriath bets $3.75.
JohnnyBRotten calls.

River (board: 8d Ad Jh 3c Td):
JohnnyBRotten bets $2.40. Kiriath raises to $18.45.
JohnnyBRotten goes all-in for $12.40. Kiriath is
returned $6.05 (uncalled).

Showdown:
Kiriath shows 2d 3d.
Kiriath has 2d 3d 8d Ad Td: flush, ace high.
JohnnyBRotten shows Ah Th.
JohnnyBRotten has Ah Th Ad Jh Td: two pair, aces and tens.

Hand #4697377-2206 Summary:
$1.80 is raked from a pot of $36.05.
Kiriath wins $34.25 with flush, ace high.
----------------------------------------------------------------
I was playing wery loose at this table, showing down some terribly cards but still enough to win some pots cause ppl believed I had jackshit. Then above happens, I believe thats how to play a flushdraw =D

This style of play is almost certainly -EV over the long run. I made several posts in another thread about how much I like limping suited connectors in LATE position. Here you were in early position. To me, that's mistake #1.

Betting into a flushdraw disguises it if it hits, and gives you a chance to win the pot there. That said, he didn't fold. If this guy wasn't so passive, he'd have reraised your flop bet and you'd have just thrown $$$ down the drain. Betting the turn holds no +EV (again, aside from a slight disguise to your hand), but definitely loses money the 75% of the time your draw doesn't hit on the river. You can only win if a 2, a 3, or a diamond hits on the river. Otherwise you're paying this guy to be a calling station. TAKE THE FREE CARD.

You got lucky and made some $$ for it. Good show. But don't make plays like this a regularity. It will cost you over the long run.

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Kiriath

03-06-2005, 08:18 PM Post subject: hehe

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ya I know it was very offensive play.

But at the turn I did figure about 30% chance to win, and to be honest I was hoping for him to just drop hes cards.

I had been playing very loose at that table for some time, buying alot of pots, and I figured this would just be another one, the bonus of a flush set or two pair draw was just icing on the cake.

Generally I dont play crap like this, at least not in full table games =)

Xianti

03-06-2005, 08:38 PM Post subject: Re: hehe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiriath

Generally I dont play crap like this, at least not in full table games =)

From the hand histories that I've seen you post, I'm not sure I believe you. You play a lot of poor hands.

There's an article in a recent Card Player magazine that talks about how poker is about making few mistakes and forcing your opponents to make costly mistakes (the basic tenet from Sklansky's Theory of Poker). Poor starting hand selection is mistake #1 and, over time, will be your costliest mistake.

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