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Old 12-13-2005, 10:37 PM     Post subject: I lose with KK twice #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #10101125-6510 at Lakeside (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 12/Dec/05 18:03:30

power pixi is at seat 0 with $54.45.
DenverMik is at seat 1 with $76.35.
Ionic is at seat 2 with $23.15.
Tricky Dick77 is at seat 3 with $52.15.
foxhoundzr2 is at seat 4 with $44.75.
johnaka is at seat 5 with $51.60.
XxDhowexX is at seat 6 with $75.40.
Desk_One is at seat 7 with $17.80.
trutildeth is at seat 8 with $50.
avfan is at seat 9 with $27.40.
The button is at seat 9.

power pixi posts the small blind of $.25.
DenverMik posts the big blind of $.50.
trutildeth posts out of turn for $.50.

power pixi: -- --
DenverMik: -- --
Ionic: -- --
Tricky Dick77: -- --
foxhoundzr2: Kc Kd
johnaka: -- --
XxDhowexX: -- --
Desk_One: -- --
trutildeth: -- --
avfan: -- --

Pre-flop:

Ionic calls. Tricky Dick77 folds. foxhoundzr2
raises to $2. johnaka folds. XxDhowexX calls.
Desk_One folds. trutildeth calls. avfan folds.
power pixi folds. DenverMik folds. Ionic folds.

Flop (board: 9s 5d 8d):

foxhoundzr2 bets $3. XxDhowexX folds. trutildeth
calls.

Turn (board: 9s 5d 8d 9h):

foxhoundzr2 bets $7.50. trutildeth calls.

River (board: 9s 5d 8d 9h 3s):

foxhoundzr2 bets $12. trutildeth raises to $24.
foxhoundzr2 calls.



Showdown:

trutildeth shows 9d Qd.
trutildeth has 9d Qd 9s 8d 9h: three nines.
foxhoundzr2 mucks cards.
(foxhoundzr2 has Kc Kd.)


Hand #10101125-6510 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $76.25.
trutildeth wins $73.25 with three nines.
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Whats wrong with that one? Looks to me like not a big enough raise on the flop, what about preflop?




Hand #10100910-5031 at Ames (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 12/Dec/05 18:33:41

goodnight444 is at seat 0 with $8.60.
MagikCowboy is at seat 1 with $6.20.
icarus2005 is at seat 2 with $4.45.
wet1 is at seat 4 with $5.
Vinny Kid is at seat 5 with $27.10.
crankjob is at seat 6 with $38.30.
foxhoundzr2 is at seat 7 with $25.95.
jaleague is at seat 8 with $7.70.
unhmayo is at seat 9 with $11.50.
The button is at seat 5.

crankjob posts the small blind of $.10.
foxhoundzr2 posts the big blind of $.25.
wet1 posts out of turn for $.25.

goodnight444: -- --
MagikCowboy: -- --
icarus2005: -- --
wet1: -- --
Vinny Kid: -- --
crankjob: -- --
foxhoundzr2: Kd Kh
jaleague: -- --
unhmayo: -- --

Pre-flop:

jaleague folds. unhmayo folds. goodnight444 folds.
MagikCowboy calls. icarus2005 calls. wet1 checks.
Vinny Kid folds. crankjob folds. foxhoundzr2
raises to $1.25. MagikCowboy calls. icarus2005
calls. wet1 folds.

Flop (board: As 5s 4d):

foxhoundzr2 checks. MagikCowboy checks. icarus2005
checks.

Turn (board: As 5s 4d 6d):

foxhoundzr2 bets $2. MagikCowboy goes all-in for
$4.95. icarus2005 folds. foxhoundzr2 calls.

River (board: As 5s 4d 6d 2h):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

MagikCowboy shows Qd Ad.
MagikCowboy has Qd Ad As 5s 6d: a pair of aces.
foxhoundzr2 mucks cards.
(foxhoundzr2 has Kd Kh.)


Hand #10100910-5031 Summary:

$.70 is raked from a pot of $14.
MagikCowboy wins $13.30 with a pair of aces.
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With the A on the flop I figured I was beat so I checked. Once they all checked I thought I would bet the turn hoping they had PP or K rags. Would you have checked the turn? When he raised allin I knew he had an A but I called anyway. Should I have folded? I figured 3.75:1 pot odds.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:
Are you looking at the board before you bet? TP on the flop just paired on the turn. That should concern you a little. Slowing down or checking is called for.

Hand 2:
I could find a fold on the turn but its only 3 more to see. Ace high board and coordinated straight possibilities you got to think your single pair is no good. This should really be a lay down.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Betting more on the flop in #1 won't make the guy lay down top pair+good kicker plus a flush draw.

#2 I bet the flop and if I get called I play it super cautious, folding to any decent size bet.
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