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Old 03-25-2005, 04:19 AM     Post subject: I hate KK #1 (permalink)  
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cobymax is a loose aggressive player with 55% preflop calls and
15% preflop raises.


***** Hand History for Game 1786117900 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 24, 15:15:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 36881 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: evovolvo ( $85.07 )
Seat 6: Any2CardsJ5 ( $58.58 )
Seat 1: whsteger ( $52.15 )
Seat 10: cobymax ( $131.97 )
Seat 9: ZugtheBar ( $33.1 )
Seat 5: Sayitaintso1 ( $47.45 )
Seat 7: CrHuang ( $20.15 )
Seat 2: rwmilesjr ( $25 )
Seat 4: Muncken ( $52.5 )
Seat 8: usmasher ( $45.75 )
Muncken posts small blind [$0.25].
Sayitaintso1 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to evovolvo [ Ks Kc ]
Any2CardsJ5 calls [$0.5].
usmasher folds.
ZugtheBar folds.
cobymax raises [$3].
whsteger calls [$3].
rwmilesjr folds.
evovolvo raises [$9].
Muncken folds.
Sayitaintso1 folds.
Any2CardsJ5 folds.
cobymax calls [$6].
whsteger folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6c, Td ]
cobymax checks.
evovolvo bets [$15].
cobymax calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
evovolvo bets [$25].
cobymax calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
cobymax is all-In.
evovolvo is all-In.

Result in white.
cobymax shows [ 9c, 9s ] a straight, seven to jack.
evovolvo doesn't show [ Ks, Kc ] a pair of kings.
cobymax wins $46.9 from side pot #1 with a straight, seven to jack.
cobymax wins $171.39 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.

Had him beat all the way to the river. Should I have folded when he went all in on the river you think ?
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Old 03-25-2005, 06:10 AM #2 (permalink)  
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In low limits, Overbet your premium hands. You will get payed off more and sucked out less.

Next time you see KK smile and push.
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Old 03-25-2005, 06:26 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Easy river fold, WTF did you think he had?
 
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Old 03-25-2005, 01:57 PM #4 (permalink)  

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Did he check/call on the turn?
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Old 03-25-2005, 03:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't know... it seems reasonably well played to me. You got sucked out on. Sucks to be you. I'd probably have to check/fold the river.

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I don't know... it seems reasonably well played to me. You got sucked out on. Sucks to be you. I'd probably have to check/fold the river.
That's the beauty of the hand. It wasn't even checked to him.

If the guy checked, you could make a strong case for checking behind. But if you bet and got check-raised it would be a different story.

But here, the guy just lead out AI for no insubstantial ammount on a scary board.

It's not an easy fold but it is a fold. Unless you can give him a lot of credit for being tricky (which I doubt), you gotta lay it down.

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:20 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I definitely would like to see more aggression on the turn. Why not push there? Would have been a much better play than calling an all-in with the straight glaring at you on the river.
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Old 03-25-2005, 03:22 PM #8 (permalink)  
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aha, my lesson learned yesterday can apply to this. check/fold the river. by that point, he probably has you outdrawn, the board is hugely scary, and even though you already have a lot of money in there, 36 bucks is worth saving.

also, had trouble reading it, but he checked to you on the turn to, then lead out the river with a push? easy fold, easier than i thought.
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Old 03-25-2005, 04:39 PM #9 (permalink)  
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He can't check fold the river.

If he was first to act on the river, check/folding would be a HORRIBLE line.

Since he has position and a big AI, he can make the hard fold. But if he was out of position, check/folding would be uber-weak.

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Old 03-25-2005, 04:41 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Like it or love it feels good to put 50g down with it and think nothin of it.
 
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Old 03-26-2005, 01:30 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Just looked through this hand again and with some perspective, I dont know how I could call that all in on the river.
In the heat of the moment it seemed like a good idea.

I think I found a leak.
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