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Old 11-17-2007, 12:48 AM     Post subject: I hate this game #1 (permalink)  
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HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/11/16 - 20:04:05 (ET)
Table 'Kilia' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MP2 ($718 in chips)
Seat 2: CO($474.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Button ($630.10 in chips)
Seat 4: SB ($396 in chips)
Seat 6: BB ($435.30 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG ($421.80 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG+1 ($241.80 in chips)
Seat 9: HEro ($400 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $2
BB: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s 8s]
UTG: raises $12 to $16
UTG+1: calls $16
Hero: calls $16
MP2: folds
CO: folds
Button: folds
SB: folds
BB: raises $44 to $60
UTG: calls $44
UTG+1: calls $44
Hero: calls $44
*** FLOP *** [Kh 2s 9s]
BB: bets $140
UTG: folds
UTG+1: folds
Hero: raises $140 to $280
BB said, "I hate this game"
BB: folds
Hero collected $519 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $522 | Rake $3
Board [Kh 2s 9s]
Seat 1: MP2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Button (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SB (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BB (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: UTG on the Flop
Seat 8: UTG+1 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Hero collected ($519)
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:51 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 WHAT ARE HIS HUD STATSSSSSS?

I have trouble figuring pot/stack sizes if it's not spelled out for me, but if villian isn't committed with AK after his bet then you have a ton of FE. He'll often not have less than KQ, I imagine.
 
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:01 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I DON'T USE A HUDDDDDDDDD!

PF is kinda borderline with so many left to act behind me. Calling the 3-bet is somwhat too but a little less so when I'm closing the action. I really think villain folded AK or AA here. I wouldn't be suprised given his comment and how paranoid many people play post-flop. It was one of those times where my first instinct was to raise but, after waiting a few seconds and thinking, I started to shake my head and told myself to dump it. I couldn't quite find the fold button though and my gut was telling me to min-raise.

I didn't have a specific read on this guy which is bad, but after calling the original raise and then the 3-bet my min-raise on the flop just screams strength. It's also a little psychology. Although a min-raise is essentially no different than pushing, psychologically pushing tends to look like you're discouraging action rather possibly trying to encourage it with a min-raise. I probably give too much thought to things like this but I think it makes enough of a difference to consider it. I mean if both lines are basically the same why not go for the one that might manipulate your opponent into doing what you want.
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 If this guy is a tight regular I definitely like minraising here rather than pushing. You must only play 4ish tables if you are able to get good reads playing w/o hud. I'd be interested in what you know about this player and what types you would do this against.
 
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:09 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 im pretty sure the first preflop call is just flat out minus ev. Not sure about the second one. Flop seems bad as well, but folding seems bad in its own way. He probably only needs to fold like 20% to be profitable, so i guess its fine.
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 I'm trying to find reasons to not like your flop play, but it's hard. Four hands see the flop and a good player pot committing themselves on this board means monster pretty much always. The problem I see is if he can put you on something like KsQs.
 
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