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Fnord
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03-19-2006, 12:02 PM
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MP3 in first hand is the same as the UTG in the second and BB in the third. I leave the reads up to you.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
UTG ($98.50)
UTG+1 ($21.25)
MP1 ($56.10)
MP2 ($91.60)
MP3 ($40)
Fnord ($100.70)
Button ($57.40)
SB ($79)
BB ($69.10)
Preflop: Fnord is CO with A , 5 . MP3 posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 (poster) raises to $6, 1 fold, Button calls $6, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds.
Flop: ($14.50) 5 , 2 , K (2 players)
MP3 checks, Button bets $8, MP3 calls $8.
Turn: ($30.50) 6 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Button checks.
River: ($30.50) K (2 players)
MP3 checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: $30.50
Results in white below:
MP3 has Kd Ac (three of a kind, kings).
Button has As Qd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins $30.50.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Button ($92.50)
SB ($77.55)
BB ($81.60)
UTG ($54.75)
Fnord ($100.70)
MP1 ($95.35)
MP2 ($74.50)
CO ($66.10)
Preflop: Fnord is UTG+1 with Q , A .
UTG calls $1, Fnord raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.
Flop: ($17) 9 , T , 9 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Fnord checks, MP2 checks.
Turn: ($17) K (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $10, Fnord folds, MP2 folds, SB folds.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
CO ($92.50)
Button ($73.55)
SB ($80.60)
BB ($66.90)
Fnord ($96.70)
UTG+1 ($95.35)
MP1 ($70.50)
MP2 ($66.10)
Preflop: Fnord is UTG with T , Q .
Fnord calls $1, 3 folds, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($5) 3 , 9 , Q (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Fnord bets $5, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $5.
Turn: ($15) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets $10, BB calls $10.
River: ($35) A (2 players)
BB bets $20, Fnord calls $20.
Final Pot: $75
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AHiltz
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He's scared of possible flushes.
In the last hand he has something like AdQh. He won't be the flop or the turn due to the 2 clubs. He doesn't put you on an A, or has one himself and fires on the river. I say 80% of the time you lose the showdown.
Good, bad?
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Seasider
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Based on the 3 hands I'm reading this guy as a pretty honest Jo as well. I doubt he has AQ on the 3rd hand as he would probably have raised this up pre-flop to thin the field, although it's impossable to say how tight he was playing pre-flop of course besides the fact he really thumped AK on hand 1.
I doubt he is calling through $15 of bets on air and either he likes the A on the river or is strong before it and doesn't want you to escape with a check behind so throws out a nice callable/raisable bet. I can rule out AK as well I think as he limped in, although he may be the type to float arround on AK on this board.
I agree with AHiltz and would say you lose, perhaps to something like A9 or limped pockets that hit a set on flop/turn. If its hard to spot a set when the pot is raised it is nearly impossable for me when everyone limps! On these three hands I just dont get the feeling he is the type to try and rescue a bust flush draw on the river or even chase it.
I mean he was checking trip Kings Ace kicker just caus' the 3 flush completed! Of course maby he thought "This guy folded to my $10 a few hands ago I can buy this one as well" If so nice call!
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Fnord
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1) He came out of the blinds were he checked his option.
2) He check/called the flop + turn.
What are you putting him on?
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AHiltz
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Now that I look again, TJ for hand #3 is very possible. You're giving him action, and he's scared of the flush. He bets something on the river that he thinks you'll call, just in case you don't have an A and it scares you causing you to check behind.
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Fnord
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To be fair, I'll look back at my HH for this guy. He might have been in a couple other pots. I smelled dead money. He bought in for $40, in all of my time playing NLHE online I can name just two guys who didn't suck who made a habbit of buying in short (one of them is Ripptyde.) The AK hand pretty much excluded him from that crowd.
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
Now that I look again, TJ for hand #3 is very possible.
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Fnord
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329 games 0.005 secs 65,800 games/sec
Board: 3c 9c Qs 8s Ah
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 69.6049 % 68.69% 00.91% { QdTd }
Hand 2: 30.3951 % 29.48% 00.91% { 99, 33, A9s, A3s, KQs, K9s, K3s, Q2s+, J9s+, J3s, T9s, T3s, 92s+, 83s, 73s, 63s, 53s, 43s, 32s, A9o, A3o, KQo, K9o, K3o, Q2o+, J9o+, J3o, T9o, T3o, 92o+, 83o, 73o, 63o, 53o, 43o, 32o }
Since I can't input 2 trash clubs into PokerStove, I'm in even better shape (although he would sometimes lead with them.) I was rather fond of that river card as I was pretty sure it was a blank.
Disagree?
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dj newman
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I know I am like this as well as other players...I see a horribly weak player and don't know what to do with him. I am guessing you limped with your Q10 since the weak player was in the BB and called his raise at the end since he was weak...Weak players bluff too much...he sees an A and tries to represent when it doesn't fit into why he would be calling the flop and turn. Another weakness...calling flush and straight draws too far...
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AHiltz
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Originally Posted by Fnord
To be fair, I'll look back at my HH for this guy. He might have been in a couple other pots. I smelled dead money. He bought in for $40, in all of my time playing NLHE online I can name just two guys who didn't suck who made a habbit of buying in short (one of them is Ripptyde.) The AK hand pretty much excluded him from that crowd.
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
Now that I look again, TJ for hand #3 is very possible.
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BAWHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
Best fucking laugh I had all day. So maybe I give donks a little bit too much credit.
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Cocco_Bill
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I need to know that villain is capable of bluffing scare cards on the river to make this call. Also I am checking the turn more often than not with such a marginal hand. Controlling pot size is more important than charging draws when you maybe betting into a stronger made hand.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
Also I am checking the turn more often than not with such a marginal hand.
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Agreed. However, everything pointed to this guy sucking donkey balls, so the turn got bet for value and I manned up on the river.
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Fnord
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For the results-oriented:
He had T3o.
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AHiltz
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Originally Posted by Fnord
For the results-oriented:
He had T3o.
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Seasider
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Originally Posted by Fnord
For the results-oriented:
He had T3o.
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ha ha nice hand. And can I sleep with the hall light on tonight otherwise the monster will get me!?
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Miffed22001
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i thought river was an easy call, im undecided if id have bet the turn but i think i dont play if much different. I may have minraised the river just to test this guys willingness to bluff.
Looking at the other hands id class him as willing to make bluffs meaning im gona raise his ass a lot on the river for value. I like how MP3 plays the hand in hand1, especially the river check. Thats more a sign id have been scared of. The guy you point out is just gona play too many big pots in stupid sitautions making him a definate fish to me.
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Fnord
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GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
UTG ($28.50)
UTG+1 ($106.35)
Fnord ($155.95)
MP2 ($123.55)
CO ($178.55)
Button ($148.80)
SB ($99)
BB ($33.50)
Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with A , J .
2 folds, Fnord raises to $3, MP2 calls $3, CO calls $3, 3 folds.
Flop: ($10.50) 2 , 6 , 4 (3 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.
Turn: ($10.50) J (3 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $7, Fnord calls $7, MP2 folds.
River: ($24.50) K (2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets $16, Fnord calls $16.
Final Pot: $56.50
Results in white below:
Fnord has As Jc (one pair, jacks).
CO has 8d Th (high card, king).
Outcome: Fnord wins $56.50.
GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
MP1 ($27.25)
MP2 ($43.55)
Fnord ($100)
Button ($279.95)
SB ($65.35)
BB ($109.50)
UTG ($48.50)
Preflop: Fnord is CO with 6 , A .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, Fnord calls $1, Button calls $1, SB raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP2 folds, Fnord calls $10, Button folds.
Flop: ($26) 9 , A , A (2 players)
SB bets $54.35 (All-In), Fnord calls $54.35.
Turn: ($134.70) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($134.70) J (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $134.70
Results in white below:
SB has Td 8c (two pair, aces and eights).
Fnord has 6h Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Fnord wins $134.70.
GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE
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