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Old 05-02-2006, 09:49 PM     Post subject: I cant shake him goose! #1 (permalink)  
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I have been running into players (at certain times of day/weekends) that are calling decent sized bets with garbage. I am not complaing at all, but want to know if this hand was played right....
Should i have bet more at certain times? Do i look like im beat throughout? Should i have raised more? I have basically no read on these guys since they have been playing any hand with anything.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($12.45)
Hero ($21.25)
CO ($19.60)
Button ($23.65)
SB ($40.50)
BB ($12.20)
UTG ($4)
UTG+1 ($9.75)
MP1 ($12.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, K.
4 folds, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) J, 8, 4 (5 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, CO folds, Button calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($7.25) 6 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, SB calls $3, BB folds.

River: ($16.25) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $16.25

Results in white below:
SB has 3s 8h (one pair, eights).
Hero has Js Kc (one pair, jacks).
Button has 9h Jc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $16.25.

I also need to mention, that these guys were in most hands. I didnt raise preflop this time to mix things up. What should i have done on the river? I looked like they were fishing for a flush...
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't raise that river either. I would rather raise preflop then limp with that hand to get it heads up if possible.
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I don't raise that river either. I would rather raise preflop then limp with that hand to get it heads up if possible.
Agreed, everyone folded to me, i had won 3 hands in a row prior, thats why i limped, try not to do it much, but...
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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you arent being aggressive enough

raise preflop if you are going to play when its folded to you and bet more on turn
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:50 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't raise that river either. I would rather raise preflop then limp with that hand to get it heads up if possible.
Agreed, everyone folded to me, i had won 3 hands in a row prior, thats why i limped, try not to do it much, but...
thats even more of a reason to raise
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You need to push harder when you are ahead against these types of players.

For example, on the flop there is $2 in the pot when it gets to you. Instead of raising it to $1.5, raise it up to $4, twice the pot.

On the turn your bet was worse. There is now $7.50 in the pot and you bet less than half the pot. It is highyl doubtful that 6 helped anyone so, if you are confident you are still ahead push it up to $7 to $10.
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I don't raise that river either. I would rather raise preflop then limp with that hand to get it heads up if possible.
Agreed, everyone folded to me, i had won 3 hands in a row prior, thats why i limped, try not to do it much, but...
thats even more of a reason to raise
Agreed. You raise it here BECAUSE you have been active lately and are more likely to get called by weaker hands.
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