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Old 12-30-2004, 09:55 AM     Post subject: I am so proud of myself for this hand... #1 (permalink)  

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POKERSTARS GAME #1016708972: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2004/12/30 - 04:03:51 (ET)
Table 'Atala' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mobyblastr ($21.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Murs316 ($55.45 in chips)
Seat 3: johnnyrose ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 4: islecrushu2 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 5: sillyputti ($27.55 in chips)
Seat 6: AlbanianGal ($20 in chips)
Seat 7: Thomasis ($69.05 in chips)
Seat 8: Oops!22 ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 9: B-Sharp ($36.10 in chips)
johnnyrose: posts small blind $0.25
islecrushu2: posts big blind $0.50
AlbanianGal: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Murs316 [Jd Kc]
sillyputti: calls $0.50
AlbanianGal: checks
Thomasis: calls $0.50
Oops!22: calls $0.50
B-Sharp: folds
mobyblastr: calls $0.50
Murs316: calls $0.50
johnnyrose: folds
islecrushu2: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d Qd Th]
islecrushu2: checks
sillyputti: checks
AlbanianGal: checks
Thomasis: bets $3
Oops!22: calls $3
mobyblastr: calls $3
Murs316: calls $3
islecrushu2: folds
sillyputti: folds
AlbanianGal: folds
*** TURN *** [9d Qd Th] [Qh]
Thomasis: bets $15
Oops!22: folds
mobyblastr: folds
Murs316: calls $15
*** RIVER *** [9d Qd Th Qh] [3d]
Thomasis: bets $50.55 and is all-in
Murs316: calls $36.95 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Thomasis: shows [Qs Kh] (three of a kind, Queens)
Murs316: shows [Jd Kc] (a straight, Nine to King)
Murs316 collected $116.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $119.65 | Rake $3
Board [9d Qd Th Qh 3d]
Seat 2: Murs316 (button) showed [Jd Kc] and won ($116.65) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 7: Thomasis showed [Qs Kh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens


first of all, I flopped the nuts and was delighted to see a bunch of people betting into me, so I smooth called. On the turn is where it got scary. "Thomasis" bet of $15 was a strong bet obviously to protect his set of queens. This is where I really did the thinking. No "good" holdem player would make such a strong bet on the turn IF he had a full house. He would only bet strong to chase away any draws. So I knew my straight was good even after the turn. The river was a 3rd diamond, but I was not worried about a flush because he obviously had a queen, and the queen of diamonds was on the flop. To my suprise he moves all in. I used my logic and reasoning to put him on KQ or AQ, everything seemed to make sense. I made the call, which I know some of you wouldn't and took it all down.

All my studying and thinking and hourse I have logged helped in this situation and I am just extremely proud of myself for the play


Please toss me some comments/suggestions


-Murs
 
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Good to see your back was wondering what happend to you.

I'm not much of a NL player so I'll let the others comment on the hand.
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Only thing I would have been afraid of was the full house.

But if why not raise it like a min. raise of $3 more on the flop?

Only things that could have beaten you were a full boat, a flush or higher straight. But seems that you had a read against him you played it very well.

nice pot


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Old 12-30-2004, 04:47 PM #4 (permalink)  
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off topic- i have a murs CD (and lots of other def jux stuff)
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Old 12-30-2004, 06:46 PM #5 (permalink)  
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It's dangerous practice to slowplay the nut straight into 3 other people. Other than that I don't mind it. I would have liked to see a raise on the turn though. He's demonstrated that he's got a monster and if he was a little bit more cognitive he coulda sniffed out your monster. (a big flat call?!) A raise would have better masked and protected your hand.

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Old 12-30-2004, 06:54 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Only things that could have beaten you were a full boat, a flush or higher straight.
nice pot
he couldnt have been beaten by a higher straight unless a K/J/A would have fallen


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Old 12-30-2004, 10:34 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Good to see your back was wondering what happend to you.

I'm not much of a NL player so I'll let the others comment on the hand.
Thanks,
I recently switched from limit to NL, but I still play .50/1 on 'stars sometimes.
 
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Old 12-30-2004, 11:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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my bad anto your are correct


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I personally probably would have raised the $3 flop bet. Allowing all of those other players to see the turn card could have burned you if a diamond came on turn. With 3 other players seeing the turn card it is very likely that at least 1 of them is on a flush draw. Luckily it didn't come on the turn and your opponent led out with a big bet, which probably chased the flush draws away for you. Even still I probably would have reraised his $15 turn bet just cause I like to be the aggressor if I have a vunerable made hand. Only potential problem I see is if the trip kings were checked on the turn and both of the other(potential flush draws) checked to you I hope you would have led out with a big enough bet to destroy there pot odds. Don't want to slow play yourself into the losing hand. A check by you at that point could and probably would have been disastrous, with 3 other players seeing the river card you would have to lay down your str8 with a flush now on the board if the betting had gotten heavy.

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