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Old 08-19-2004, 06:22 AM     Post subject: i am an idiotttt #1 (permalink)  
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Dealer: Hand #4721016
Dealer: leimenzerga posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: RAZEit posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [Kd Ac]
Dealer: Spyke Spiegel folds
Dealer: SlyGuyRy folds
Dealer: thegenius5 folds
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $7
Dealer: HTownWilly folds
Dealer: Cameo folds
Dealer: leimenzerga folds
Dealer: RAZEit calls $5
Dealer: The flop is [8h Kc Ah]
Dealer: RAZEit bets $15
johnnyreraise (Observer): yall really know how to overbet a pot
Dealer: maxxscam has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $45
Dealer: RAZEit calls $30
Dealer: The turn is [2h]
Dealer: RAZEit checks
Dealer: maxxscam has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: maxxscam bets $20
Dealer: RAZEit raises to $165
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $241.15, and is all in
Dealer: RAZEit calls $76.15
Dealer: The river is [2s]
Dealer: maxxscam shows two pair, Aces and Kings
Dealer: RAZEit shows a flush, Ace high
Dealer: RAZEit wins the pot ($584.30) with a flush, Ace high
Dealer: maxxscam is sitting out



i know i shoulda checked the turn or raised more on the flop but i figured he was taking a stab at the pot with a weak ace, on the flop so i reraised a decent amount, but possibly amount he would call, then he checked the turn i thought either flush or just a little scared cause i reraised him on flop, the reraise on turn i shoulda knowk, and i think i did know but i couldnt laydown the dream flop


by the way he had 2 6 hearts he called 7$ raise with 2 6 of hearts, 7$ is a big raise at this table as well, ohh well getem next time i guess.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:39 AM     Post subject: Re: i am an idiotttt #2 (permalink)  
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by the way he had 2 6 hearts he called 7$ raise with 2 6 of hearts, 7$ is a big raise at this table as well, ohh well getem next time i guess.
I guess his justification fot calling would be that he was in the BB, and it was only $5 more for him to call. I guess when he saw everyone else fold, he figured he'd take a stab at it. I know what you're saying, though. There's no reason to be playing 2 6. The fact that they're suited doesn't make them any better. After that flop, there was no way this dude was going anywhere, not with 4 to a flush eventhough he was what? a 2 to 1 underdog? That's a pretty big bad beat... I hope you made it back.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:44 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Tall stacks, implied odds rule, AK loses a ton of value and calling with suited rags in that spot isn't punished very harshly if played well post-flop.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:53 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Tall stacks, implied odds rule, AK loses a ton of value and calling with suited rags in that spot isn't punished very harshly if played well post-flop.
Exactly what I was going to say, 90% of the time he will probably lose $5, but occasionally Dealer: RAZEit wins the pot ($584.30) with a flush, Ace high

That's 58:1 ((584.3/2)/5) on the $5 call, he had huge implied odds.
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Old 08-19-2004, 08:02 AM #5 (permalink)  
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yeah he kept sayin he had pot odds and i said no pot odds says fold, implied odds says call, he made the right play i cant blame him, just my own retardedness, i lost over 600 tonight
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Old 08-19-2004, 08:07 AM #6 (permalink)  
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They sure as hell ain't the PP $25/$50 NL fish at that level. Structure is different too with 100+BB(?) stacks. I hope you didn't put too much of a dent in your bankroll.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:21 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Calling a decent pre-flop raise with 62s is horrid, regardless of stack sizes IMO. POST-flop, I can't really fault him too much. After his semi-bluff on the flop gets raised, he's just praying you've got AA/KK/AK and won't be able to let go of your monster if he makes his flush. The implied odds are there post-flop with that board, but him calling that pre-flop raise even from the BB seems silly to me. Maybe with suited connectors you could justify it with implied odds, but 62?!?
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Old 08-20-2004, 12:53 AM #8 (permalink)  
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