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Old 02-18-2005, 02:17 PM     Post subject: How should I have played this? #1 (permalink)  

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Playing in a bigger home game (17 people at 2 tables). I was dealt 4-4 UTG. I call the BB. There are a total of 4 players. The flop comes 10-2-4, all diamonds. I bet and get three callers. I figured one of those callers had a low flush. The turn was a rag. I checked and so did everyone else. The river card was another 10, giving me 4s full of 10s. I bet, the guy to my left raises big (10xBB). 1 player calls, One folds, and now it is to me. I thought about re-rasing but decided not to, so I just called. The raiser turns over 10-2 ,10s full of 2s. I dont think there was a way to win that pot unless I did it pre-flop but I don't like to raise in that position with that low of cards. Right before I called the river bet, I thought he might have had a 10-2, 10-4 or 10-whatever the other board card was, but I could not fold my Full house

How would you guys had played that? Would you have folded on the re-raise? Bet big on the flop (he had 2 pair so I dont think it would have mattered)?

It is situations like this why I dont like pocket pairs. I would much rather play a 7-8 than 4-4
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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1. If you don't lose a bunch of money on this hand, there's something wrong with you.

2. You didn't specify how much you bet on the flop. Given your low set I would have done one of two things: bet big to try to take it down early, or check and look to check-raise big. Mr. 10-2 is probably staying in anyway, so you're hosed no matter what... but for future reference.

3. Checking the turn was a bad idea. Bet hard. You got flat-called on the flop, so the likely hands that are staying in have one diamond (chasing the flush) or two pair (Mr. 10-2 engaging in some wishful thinking). Your confident bet on this street says "I have the best hand right now. Better get out." And even though you didn't have the flush, you were right.

4. I don't like pre-flop raising with baby pairs. Some people will but I prefer to limp and look for a set. It's a fine approach to this hand. Most of the time if you make a set, you'll win... just get your money in and hope. You can in some situations fold to obvious flushes or straights, but in this case you were right to stay in. I will raise with pocket 8s or higher in most games, although it depends on the table - most loose and aggressive tables, I only raise pocket 10s or higher.

5. Flat call by you on the river was probably smart, even though you very likely have the best hand. Saved yourself some money this time of course, but I find a lot of times when you have a vulnerable boat (like the low end trips with a higher board pair) you can afford to exercise a little caution on the end. If you had this boat on the flop I'd be pushing all in very quickly, but on the river you will run into some people who made a boat along the way, and it's not a bad idea to just call if they are showing major aggression.
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