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spino1i
Old 06-20-2005, 05:36 PM     Post subject: How should I have played this? #1 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 2235955098 *****
$200 NL Hold'em - Monday, June 20, 13:35:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 36682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pimpin111 ( $243 )
Seat 2: EvilEcstasy_ ( $89.15 )
Seat 3: shulz ( $288.4 )
Seat 4: vagram ( $48.43 )
Seat 9: tramvaj ( $260.25 )
Seat 10: CelticTiger_ ( $224.8 )
Seat 5: Lucky_ador ( $200 )
Seat 6: Jupar ( $151.35 )
Seat 8: Stuey867 ( $244.15 )
Seat 7: OPD___ ( $214.75 )
EvilEcstasy_ posts small blind [$1].
shulz posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Qs Qd ]
vagram calls [$2].
Lucky_ador folds.
Jupar calls [$2].
OPD___ folds.
Stuey867 calls [$2].
tramvaj folds.
CelticTiger_ folds.
pimpin111 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$11].
shulz calls [$10].
vagram folds.
Jupar folds.
Stuey867 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 2s, 9s ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$20].
shulz calls [$20].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
EvilEcstasy_ is all-In [$57.15]
shulz calls [$57.15].
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ Qs, Qd ] a flush, queen high.
shulz shows [ Kd, Ks ] a flush, king high.
shulz wins $181.3 from the main pot with a flush, king high with king kicker.
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Old 06-20-2005, 05:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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yikes. Curious to hear the CG experts chime in, I prolly would have given away my stack just like you did. I guess you could argue opp wont call on the turn without a better flush... tough one. Maybe just try to check it down?
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Old 06-20-2005, 05:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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you couldn't do shit, in a love game maybe a read but you have got to bet that hand. idk maybe after he called you on the flop you could've figured he was on a draw, even though he kinda wasn't. you're kinda unlucky he didn't reraise you pre flop.
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Old 06-20-2005, 06:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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You're hosed, sorry. I don't think I would have done a thing differently.
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Sorry but I think you misplayed it.

He calls your 5x PFR. What do you expect him to have? He's
got an A in there or a K or maybe both.

He calls your 10x flop bet. With that board, you know he's got
a big spade. He knows your on the flush draw because of your
PFR (he put you on a big pair) so he calls, hoping you don't have
As.

The all-in on the turn wasn't at all necessary. The only hand that
would call is the nut flush or close to it. If he didn't have the spade
he would have folded anyway. In cases where the information is
on the board, don't bet to push people off. Bet for value or check
and trap their bluff.

Would you call that bet if you had Js or Ts? Then why expect him
to call it unless he's got you?
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:17 PM #6 (permalink)  
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On the turn, you're essentially in a position where you either have the hand won or your opponent does. That being said, you should only be betting for one of two purposes, to bluff out a better hand or get a call from a worse hand. Going all-in really doesn't achieve either, since he obviously isn't going to call with a jack high flush or worse, and he's going to call with a king high flush or better. I would either check-call or check-fold, depending upon the size of his bets relative to the pot size, and my assessment of how capable my opponent is of bluffing or overvaluing a hand in this situation.
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:42 PM #7 (permalink)  
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you were up against a misplayed KK, keep a note that he doesnt play big pairs aggressively and move on.
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