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Old 04-04-2007, 04:57 AM     Post subject: How to play a straight / flush draw? #1 (permalink)  
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Stage #621610534: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2007-04-03 23:06:45 (ET)
Table: PELICAN AVE (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 8 - ALBA216 ($6.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - WULRUS ($42.35 in chips)
Seat 1 - JASFAL ($52.60 in chips)
Seat 2 - WE3ZIE ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 3 - BLAZE144 ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 4 - OCEAN777 ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 5 - SGWINKEL ($22.90 in chips)
Seat 6 - GORDIES22 ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 7 - JONNYSTORM ($54.20 in chips)
WULRUS - Posts small blind $0.10
JASFAL - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to WE3ZIE [7c 8c]
WE3ZIE - Calls $0.25
BLAZE144 - Folds
OCEAN777 - Folds
SGWINKEL - Raises $0.50 to $0.50
GORDIES22 - Folds
JONNYSTORM - Folds
ALBA216 - Folds
WULRUS - Calls $0.40
JASFAL - Calls $0.25
WE3ZIE - Calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [5s Jc 6c]
WULRUS - Bets $0.25
JASFAL - Folds
WE3ZIE - Raises $0.75 to $0.75
SGWINKEL - Raises $1.50 to $1.50
WULRUS - Raises $4.50 to $4.75
WE3ZIE - Calls $4
SGWINKEL - Calls $3.25
*** TURN *** [5s Jc 6c] [10s]
WULRUS - All-In $37.10
WE3ZIE - Folds
SGWINKEL - Folds
WULRUS - returned ($37.10) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WULRUS - Does not show
WULRUS Collects $15.45 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($16.25) | Rake ($0.80)
Board [5s Jc 6c 10s]
Seat 1: JASFAL (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 2: WE3ZIE Folded on the TURN
Seat 3: BLAZE144 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: OCEAN777 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: SGWINKEL Folded on the TURN
Seat 6: GORDIES22 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: JONNYSTORM Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: ALBA216 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: WULRUS (small blind) collected Total ($15.45) All-In HI$15.45) [Does not show]


Seeing as how I was favored to hit, I was trying to get as much money in on the flop as possible (especially with the third guy hanging around), but then I had no idea how to play the blank turn. Any suggestions?
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:15 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 You flopped a very nice hand. So, get more money in! Make a large flop reraise, and shove all other raises.

Turn call is close. I would still do it since you are ~34% against his tightest range.

You need 41% equity to call this bet, and if you take A-10s out of that range you can call this. Calling is even better if villain will also play two pair this way.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I thought about pushing the flop to the raise. Is this the best way to play these hands, especially when you are getting 2 callers? I put my opponent on a set but I had just sat down so I wasn't sure.

(He later said he had 2 pair and the rabbit card showed a 4 which made my straight, to make matters worse)
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I would rather see you RRraise the flop instead of calling and be willing to get it all in if needed.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.258% 40.26% 00.00% 3587 0.00 { 8c7c }
Hand 1: 59.742% 59.74% 00.00% 5323 0.00 { JJ, 66-55 }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.939% 53.94% 00.00% 6408 0.00 { 8c7c }
Hand 1: 46.061% 46.06% 00.00% 5472 0.00 { KK+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.667% 36.67% 00.00% 363 0.00 { 8c7c }
Hand 1: 63.333% 63.33% 00.00% 627 0.00 { Ac2c }

EDIT: I calculated the Axs wrong and included all suits lol, obviously we are a bigger dog if he has two overs that are clubs. We only have 34% equity then.

I think this is a set more often than not so I would stick it in on the flop.

As the turn is a brick we need to fold, I dont think we are getting the right equity vs any legitimate holdings...Even two pair

Board: 5s Jc 6c Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.545% 29.55% 00.00% 39 0.00 { 8c7c }
Hand 1: 70.455% 70.45% 00.00% 93 0.00 {55 ,JJ, 66}

Board: 5s Jc 6c Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.909% 65.91% 00.00% 174 0.00 { J6o }
Hand 1: 34.091% 34.09% 00.00% 90 0.00 { 8c7c }
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Board: 5s Jc 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.529% 60.41% 00.12% 25715 52.00 { 8c7c }
Hand 1: 39.471% 39.35% 00.12% 16751 52.00 { A2s+ }
This doesn't look right.

I'm at work so I can't check Pokerstove now, but try rerunning this with Acxc only. The clubs are not outs for us, so we're left with 6 for the OESD plus our 6 pair cards, minus us losing if an A comes even if we make a pair or us losing to the higher flush. I can't see how we're favored vs Acxc.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:47 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 When the betting came around to you again you should have pushed. Not only do you have an excellent chance of hitting your hand but it tilts opponents something fierce when you do.

As played I fold the turn.


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