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Lukie
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04-29-2006, 04:01 PM
Post subject: how do i play this
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villain seems like a solid tag in the 19/10ish mold. is preflop too spewy? What about flop, how is a call to see a cheap turn? This hand had me so lost.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($207.35)
BB ($123.90)
UTG ($242.50)
UTG+1 ($166.30)
MP1 ($335.20)
MP2 ($330.80)
MP3 ($37)
Hero ($356.25)
Button ($110)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 , 8.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 3 folds, MP1 calls $15.
Flop: ($45) T, Q , 9 (2 players)
MP1 bets $22, Hero raises to $80, MP1 raises to $314.2, Hero calls $234.20.
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gabe
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preflop is fine
if hes good, i think he has a monster on the flop (at worst, AQd), but likely a set or the straight. i dont raise his flop bet, i call and hope to hit. good players dont lead into the reraiser without a hand.
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Lukie
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honestly those were my thoughts exactly when I was reviewing the hand afterwards. He had TT. Kd turn, Q river. Boat beats a flush, unfortunately.
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gabe
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yea what were you thinking raising your draw when you had no folding equity AND knowing that another reraise was likely because he was so strong?????
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Warpe
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I don't completely mind the reraise preflop with position but I'm less aggro than you, so I just call and call the flop. Gotta exercise some pot control if you don't hit.
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Lukie
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I flopped a really pretty open ended straight flush draw and wanted to get it allin and GAMB00LLLLLL!!!!, iGNORING THAT CALLING WAS CLEARLY THE BETTER PLAY.
oops with the caps lock i don't feel like changing it
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Warpe
I don't completely mind the reraise preflop with position but I'm less aggro than you, so I just call and call the flop. Gotta exercise some pot control if you don't hit.
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well i hit about as hard as I'm going to hit, although I'm not saying how i played it was correct, obviously.
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Warpe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by Warpe
I don't completely mind the reraise preflop with position but I'm less aggro than you, so I just call and call the flop. Gotta exercise some pot control if you don't hit.
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well i hit about as hard as I'm going to hit, although I'm not saying how i played it was correct, obviously. |
meaning: make your hand
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gabe
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you probably played it in a +ev manner but theres more +ev lines
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I fit that 19/10 mold pretty closely. I would NOT fire at that pot unless I wanted to protect my set. 90% of the time you are facing a set and the other 10% a straight. Most of the time you are better off calling the flop and jamming the turn.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
I fit that 19/10 mold pretty closely. I would NOT fire at that pot unless I wanted to protect my set. 90% of the time you are facing a set and the other 10% a straight. Most of the time you are better off calling the flop and jamming the turn.
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I agree with this
edit: except the part about the made straight, which is of almost no concern to me.
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i like preflop reraise with position and stacks at 175~ bbs.
erm, i think opps preflop range is predictable which means his weak lead is a monster.
i see two lines
1. reraise flop and then its all going in regardless almost definatly as a 40/60 dog
2. call flop push turn. Will you get called? probably if opp cant put you on QQ or two diamonds.
However when he sees wat u have he'll get wtfpwned unless hes lucky on the river.
If you push the turn btw and he calls with the set, reraise him a hell of a lot more. This guy will pay that style an awful lot.
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