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kingme620
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08-07-2008, 01:08 AM
Post subject: How did I play KK here?
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 75
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed)
CO ($50)
Button ($35.95)
SB ($29.10)
Hero ($25.10)
UTG ($26.65)
UTG+1 ($24.60)
MP1 ($46.90)
MP2 ($44.95)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.5, UTG+1 calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25, SB folds.
Flop: ($5) 3 , T, K (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, UTG+1 calls $1.50, CO folds.
small bet here. But enough I think to be a weak cbet. I want at least one caller.
Turn: ($8) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, UTG+1 raises to $4, Hero calls $2.50.
Based on how weak I look with my bet and this player I am sure this is a bluff. If I raise he folds, so I just call.
River: ($16) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, UTG+1 folds.
This is where, given my line, I maybe could of made some more with a smaller bet. What do you think?
Final Pot: $16
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Squeaky_Midget1
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Since you're not really repping a big hand betting 1/5 then 1/8 pot, I think villain's turn raise is a semi-bluff like QJ so often I don't think there's any value in betting the river here and you're probably better off checking to induce a bluff. If he checks behind he probably wouldn't have called a bet anyways.
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Fnord
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Moderator
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This hand sucks on fundamental levels.
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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I think you played this poorly. At least a 3/4 pot on flop.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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pankfish
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Flush
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Awful. If you are going to bet that small on flop you may as well check it to him. He'll probably put more money in the pot than you are betting anyway. Turn wtf? River, by this point I just don't know.
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<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
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NovusImage
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Las Vegas
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Guys, I'm brand new here so I don't have an opinion on how this was played, but am I wrong to think that this is a spot to try to stack your opponent. The board looked safe enough to me. Maybe break up the stack into 3 so you get it all in on the river and hope he has 2pair or lower set? I dunno, that at least what I would do.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
This hand sucks on fundamental levels.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Location: Pwnsylvania
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Lol you should have bet $1.50 again for the quadfecta.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
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Location: Not Giving In
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Raise a tad less on turn, rest looks fine
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kingme620
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3-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jyms
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
This hand sucks on fundamental levels.
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haha jokes jokes....not a real hand... 
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
Join Date: May 2008
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preflops fine, bet $3.5 on flop, then if that is done and your bet called either lead for $8 on turn or check to induce a bet (villain dependent, i.e. if hes not agro just keep betting). If you take the first line and are then called just shove the river as you only have a pot sized bet left. 2nd line i wouldnt recommend and id only use against aggresive/semi decent oppenents who arnt simply calling stations. If you take this line i really dont mind a pussy bet on turn or a check, and if he raises just flat and with the river bricking definitely check to induce a bluff as thats what his range is mainly made up of by this point. However as i mentioned previously id take that 2nd line rarely as its definitely not as optimal as the first.
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"This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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preflop is good.
flop is half-bad. You bet, so yay! You bet and showed some weakness, so i guess that's cool. I know what you're thinking. "Top set means no one calls!"
turn is frowny face. What are you planning on? a check-raise on the river?
What were you planning on? clearly not a check raise of the river. I mean... what could the opponent possibly have to stack off to you here?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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08-08-2008, 12:38 AM
Post subject: Re: How did I play KK here?
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#13 (permalink)
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kingme620
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed)
CO ($50)
Button ($35.95)
SB ($29.10)
BB ($25.10)
UTG ($26.65)
Hero ($24.60)
MP1 ($46.90)
MP2 ($44.95)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5 , 5 .
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, BB raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25, SB folds.
Flop: ($5) 3 , T , K (3 players)
BBbets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50, CO folds.
Turn: ($8) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, Hero calls $2.50.
River: ($16) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $16
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Basically yah, from the other point of view, we're probably bluffing this turn a lot... but why lead the river? If he's throwing money around the worst he can do is check behind. You bet because you hope he may have possibly been raising the turn for value or his the magical 3rd 2. But you should def not be leading this river strong. Because now you let him just call behind with A2 and prevent him from giving the bluff another go.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Squeaky_Midget1
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 126
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wow, i'm confused as shit. ^^^where did this come from?
Is OP BB or UTG ?
Did he have 5's or K's?
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then put in 4/5 of the pot as a "c-bet" when it's really a value bet
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