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Old 03-01-2006, 04:42 AM     Post subject: how to bet TP with flush possibilty. #1 (permalink)  
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$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, March 01, 00:39:39 ET 2006
Table Feronia (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: sigh_ ( $29.25 )
Seat 3: nightchaser ( $20.39 )
Seat 6: cat22fan ( $24.60 )
Seat 10: taslhoff ( $84.63 )
Seat 5: crikreef ( $20.40 )
Seat 9: gmoney87578 ( $21.55 )
Seat 8: Luck2_BeatMe ( $9.15 )
Seat 2: BobbyPrince ( $21.60 )
Seat 7: Kurps33 ( $16.70 )
Seat 4: Kerrigan_ ( $25 )
Kurps33 posts small blind [$0.10].
Luck2_BeatMe posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to crikreef [ Qh Kc ]
gmoney87578 folds.
taslhoff folds.
sigh_ calls [$0.25].
BobbyPrince folds.
nightchaser calls [$0.25].
crikreef calls [$0.25].
cat22fan calls [$0.25].
Kurps33 calls [$0.15].
Luck2_BeatMe checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Js, Qs ]
Kurps33 checks.
Luck2_BeatMe checks.
sigh_ checks.
nightchaser checks.
crikreef bets [$1].
cat22fan calls [$1].
Kurps33 folds.
Luck2_BeatMe folds.
sigh_ folds.
nightchaser folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
crikreef bets [$2.05].
cat22fan calls [$2.05].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
crikreef bets [$3].
cat22fan raises [$6].
crikreef calls [$3].
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:02 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Wow, if that guy has a flush he got absolutely no value out of it.

This is always a tricky situation. The min raise on the river tells you he has a flush though... What else would he raise with? Maybe a full house.... though that's also beating you.
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:15 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I disagree. The As or Ks justifies these calls. A busted-draw raise on the river is usually bigger than that, but not always at 25NL.

There are a sufficient number of inferior hands that make this worth $3 to me. I call
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It was awefully nice of him not to put you to a difficult decision anywhere in this hand. Return the favor and pay him off.
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It was awefully nice of him not to put you to a difficult decision anywhere in this hand. Return the favor and pay him off.
I did.

Villain had Q9 to make the boat.
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Shouldnt this river be a standard check calling situation?
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:06 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Shouldnt this river be a standard check calling situation?
I think that represents too much weakness. If Villain hadnt sucked out he probably would have checked behind and I would have made less or it would leave room for him to make a big bet to scare me off. If I bet and he comes over the top when Ive been betting the whole time then I doubt its a bluff.
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Shouldnt this river be a standard check calling situation?
Too many stupid hands pay off at this level. Too many hands that have ours smoked do something stupid like flat call or min-raise.

Save the check/calls for crazy mofos like me who will raise obvious blocking bets and bluff rivers with usually something in line with the pot.
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Shouldnt this river be a standard check calling situation?
Too many stupid hands pay off at this level. Too many hands that have ours smoked do something stupid like flat call or min-raise.

Save the check/calls for crazy mofos like me who will raise obvious blocking bets and bluff rivers with usually something in line with the pot.
so save check calling for good players.
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