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invizyn

08-23-2006, 02:55 AM Post subject: how badly did i butcher this hand? 25NL

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Full Tilt Poker Game #925411073: Table Upland - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:46:30 ET - 2006/08/22
Seat 1: slicer24 ($15.95)
Seat 2: Sandrat_007 ($18.30)
Seat 3: YourAlmsman ($27.95)
Seat 4: ace2031 ($29.15)
Seat 5: DonkeyPunchX2 ($9.75)
Seat 6: slartibart ($20.40)
Seat 7: KaizerOne ($9.75)
Seat 8: Hero($18.60)
Seat 9: jwatt ($92.45)
DonkeyPunchX2 posts the small blind of $0.10
slartibart posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[3d 3s]ff
KaizerOne folds
Hero calls $0.25
jwatt has 15 seconds left to act
jwatt raises to $1
slicer24 folds
Sandrat_007 folds
YourAlmsman folds
ace2031 folds
DonkeyPunchX2 folds
slartibart folds
Hero calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [3h 8h 9d]
Hero bets $0.50
jwatt raises to $1
Hero calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [3h 8h 9d] [As]
Hero checks
jwatt checks
*** RIVER *** [3h 8h 9d As] [2d]
Hero bets $16.60, and is all in
jwatt calls $16.60

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cardsman1992

08-23-2006, 03:27 AM

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Lead flop for more, $1.50.
Bet turn 2/3 pot.
Don't shove river, bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot

You scared your customer off, dude

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08-23-2006, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Lead flop for more, $1.50.
Bet turn 2/3 pot.
Don't shove river, bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot

You scared your customer off, dude

He scared him off?...he got called for all his chips, bad play of the hand, but good results....listen to cadsman though....good line there.

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cardsman1992

08-23-2006, 11:22 AM

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didn't read last line properly....thought it said "uncalled bets returned"....

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08-23-2006, 11:57 AM

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Buy in full, 3-bet flop, lead turn and push river.

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invizyn

08-23-2006, 07:52 PM

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Okay - here was my thought process throughout the hand. Preflop - limp/call raise is pretty standard, if i hit my set, villian could possibly double me up.

Flop - since he raised preflop, and i knew he was pretty aggressive, i thought i'd lead with a really weak bet, hoping for a large raise. He didn't raise as much as i wanted, but i felt that reraising him would show too much strength in my hand.

Turn - I felt that this could have have helped him - i was thinking that he had AK or something like that. So i check it hoping that he would bet, so i could check-raise him. But he didn't.

River - I felt that the way i played this hand - villian could call with AKs considering how passive i played it. He called and flipped over AA for trip aces.

MiJ

08-23-2006, 08:07 PM

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i raise pf....i like playing trips fast 2 ...i'll bet out the turn as well...sux that he AA but owell ...nothing you can do about that...

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08-24-2006, 09:18 AM

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Okay - here was my thought process throughout the hand. Preflop - limp/call raise is pretty standard, if i hit my set, villian could possibly double me up.

Goot.

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Flop - since he raised preflop, and i knew he was pretty aggressive, i thought i'd lead with a really weak bet, hoping for a large raise. He didn't raise as much as i wanted, but i felt that reraising him would show too much strength in my hand.

On drawheavy flops like this disguising your hand strength becomes less important than protecting it from someone drawing out. You need to build the pot before scare cards hit and either gives him the best hand or stops him from putting more chips in with a worse hand.

If he is aggressive he's going to raise a bigger bet anyway.

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Turn - I felt that this could have have helped him - i was thinking that he had AK or something like that. So i check it hoping that he would bet, so i could check-raise him. But he didn't.

Again you don't want to give free cards to draws. Villains flop play could look like a flush draw line, if he checks behind and a heart comes on the river you're in big trouble.

And again, if he is aggressive he'll raise it up if the A helped him. Then you can 3-bet all in.

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River - I felt that the way i played this hand - villian could call with AKs considering how passive i played it. He called and flipped over AA for trip aces.

Your line looks a lot like a slow played monster as well, not really sure if villains call this with top pair type hands. As it went, you'd have been stacked here anyway. You need to compensate for these situations (they don't happen very often) by making more money when he has other hands.

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