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Old 08-15-2005, 09:31 AM     Post subject: How bad did I play this hand, and how can I play it better? #1 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 2538533108 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 15, 05:22:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 37235 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: liangyu888 ( $6.30 )
Seat 3: stay_heady ( $158.96 )
Seat 4: Bad_Company_ ( $29.86 )
Seat 5: JJJJfour ( $23.92 )
Seat 6: Collecteren1 ( $45.47 )
Seat 7: doc_hollydae ( $26.15 )
Seat 8: RASPOUTIINE ( $25 )
Seat 9: SunAndSoul ( $50.81 )
Seat 10: SAMANTHA44 ( $28 )
Seat 2: FestinaLente ( $9.25 )
Bad_Company_ posts small blind [$0.10].
JJJJfour posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bad_Company_ [ Kh Ks ]
Collecteren1 calls [$0.25].
doc_hollydae folds.
RASPOUTIINE folds.
SunAndSoul folds.
SAMANTHA44 calls [$0.25].
liangyu888 folds.
FestinaLente folds.
stay_heady folds.
Bad_Company_ raises [$0.90].
JJJJfour folds.
Collecteren1 calls [$0.75].
SAMANTHA44 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 4s, 6s ]
Bad_Company_ bets [$3].
Collecteren1 calls [$3].
SAMANTHA44 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
Bad_Company_ bets [$6].
>You have options at Table 37100 Table!.
Collecteren1 calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
Bad_Company_ bets [$4].
Collecteren1 raises [$12].
Bad_Company_ calls [$8].
Collecteren1 shows [ 2s, 2h ] three of a kind, twos.
Bad_Company_ doesn't show [ Kh, Ks ] a pair of kings.
Collecteren1 wins $43 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.
>You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:46 AM #2 (permalink)  

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There was nothing you could really do. You were out of position, he flopped a set and you had an overpair. He just smooth called all the way to river. There was nothing wrong with your play.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I guess I feel I should have maybe slowed down maybe on the turn or river.

For some reason a Set was the last thing on my mind. I put him on A/k or a/q of Spades drawing to the flush.

Once I was re-raised on the river I knew I was had, but does anyone fold this hand? I thought the pot odds were just too good, but I knew I was beat.

Also,

Was my river bet too small? It was meant to be a value bet on a missed flush or something, but it just got me in trouble.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:03 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Surf_Thug
Once I was re-raised on the river I knew I was had, but does anyone fold this hand? I thought the pot odds were just too good, but I knew I was beat.
Read something interesting on this topic by Jennifer Harman the other day. Hope I'm not terribly misquoting, but she asks if, in a situation like this, the pot is laying you odds for the chance you think you are beat. For example, if you are 99% sure you are beat here, the pot is not laying you odds on the 1% chance you could be wrong. If you are only 55% sure you are beat, the pot IS laying you odds to call.

Just an interesting concept of applying pot odds in combination with your reads of opponents. Thought maybe it could apply here, though. Anyone else's thoughts?
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Old 08-15-2005, 01:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Limps and calls from UTG are either AJ, KQ or small pocket pairs unless you are dealing with a super loose player. The fact that he called your flop bet with a bunch of rags would make me worried. I would go into "cheap showdown" mode. If there was a Q or a J on that board I would feel better about betting it but if he calls your pot sized bet, I would come back with a probing bet on the turn of $3 and see if he would raise me. A raise here would almost certainly indicate a set (like 70% of the time) and may cause me to fold it if I was up against a tight player.
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