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journey075
Old 07-06-2005, 09:27 PM     Post subject: help me understand this #1 (permalink)  
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first hand at the table. figured id call to see a flop for another 50 cents.



------HAND 5------
Game #640048274: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/07/06 - 17:24:14 (ET)
Table "Victor" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Josse187 ($21.40 in chips)
Seat 2: ZappaA ($38.25 in chips)
Seat 3: vamsiv ($54.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Ftelio ($83.18 in chips)
Seat 5: Benedetto ($69.11 in chips)
Seat 6: random20 sits out
Seat 7: journey75 ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: coldplay ($40.17 in chips)
Seat 9: Waltoft ($70.75 in chips)
Seat 10: masternod ($36.83 in chips)
Benedetto: posts small blind $0.25
journey75: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to journey75 [Jh 9d]
coldplay: raises to $1
Waltoft: folds
masternod: folds
Josse187: folds
ZappaA: folds
vamsiv: folds
Ftelio: calls $1
Benedetto: folds
journey75: calls $0.50
----- FLOP ----- [9h 4d 7s]
journey75: bets $2.50
coldplay: folds
Ftelio: calls $2.50
----- TURN ----- [9h 4d 7s][Ah]
journey75: checks
Ftelio: checks
----- RIVER ----- [9h 4d 7s Ah][3s]
journey75: checks
Ftelio: bets $8
journey75: folds
Returned uncalled bets $8 to Ftelio
Ftelio: doesn't show hand
Ftelio collected $7.85 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $8.25 Main pot $7.85 Rake $0.40
Board [9h 4d 7s Ah 3s]
Seat 1: Josse187 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ZappaA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: vamsiv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ftelio (button) collected $7.85
Seat 5: Benedetto (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: journey75 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: coldplay folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Waltoft folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: masternod folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Theeggman
Old 07-06-2005, 10:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd fold to that too. After the ace falls on the turn you gotta go into check/fold mode imo. He almost certainly had you beat. I'm learning that it's usually not worth it to play marginal hands for a raise from the blinds - just because of the post-flop positon (unless I flop a monster of course).
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:46 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd fold to that too. After the ace falls on the turn you gotta go into check/fold mode imo. He almost certainly had you beat. I'm learning that it's usually not worth it to play marginal hands for a raise from the blinds - just because of the post-flop positon (unless I flop a monster of course).
oh i wasnt dreaming about calling, but im trying to understand the type of cards that overbets the pot on the river like this. i couldnt put him on a hand whatsoever.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I could imagine TT JJ QQ or KK would make this bet. That's because you acted real weak on the ace. It could also be a stone bluff. You should have bet when the ace dropped. Aces are your friend.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 07-08-2005, 12:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I could imagine TT JJ QQ or KK would make this bet. That's because you acted real weak on the ace. It could also be a stone bluff. You should have bet when the ace dropped. Aces are your friend.

any of those hands raises the flop and half of them raise preflop.


i can usually put someone on 1-2 different hands. here i was completely clueless.
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Old 07-08-2005, 01:52 PM #6 (permalink)  
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This is one of those 80% of the time he beats you, 20% of the time he's bluffing. You still have to fold it. I may have tried a check raise on the flop if I had a read.
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