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Old 09-05-2005, 05:26 AM     Post subject: Help with this hand pls #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is TAG
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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 05, 01:22:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 36734 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: Crackm0nk3y ( $188 )
Seat 5: EvilEcstasy_ ( $221.60 )
Seat 6: DoingMyNails ( $573.42 )
Seat 9: Iambobby ( $59.60 )
Seat 2: mmpokertime ( $195.60 )
Seat 4: melsar ( $457.80 )
Seat 7: fishyvanboy ( $197 )
Seat 10: dellitalia ( $188.65 )
Iambobby posts small blind [$1].
dellitalia posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ As Ac ]
mmpokertime folds.
Crackm0nk3y folds.
>You have options at Table 48817 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$7].
DoingMyNails calls [$7].
fishyvanboy folds.
Iambobby folds.
dellitalia folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Th, 5h ]
>You have options at Table 48830 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$12].
DoingMyNails raises [$30].
>You have options at Table 48830 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$18].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
DoingMyNails bets [$40].
>You have options at Table 48830 Table!.
iliketrees21 has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 48817 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ ???
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:36 AM #2 (permalink)  
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You want them to have KK here but wouldn't they have reraised preflop? The pattern of bets looks like a set. If your villain is a real TAG, you gotta let it go.
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:49 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Need more information on the villain, how aggressive is he? Will he semi-bluff flush draws with overcards? How aggressively does he play his sets? Does he pounce on weakness (like your turn check)? Would he play say 99 like this?

By just calling his flop raise you aren't getting anymore info and not giving him any reason to slow down. Which is fine if your read is that you are ahead and you want to check raise him on the turn, but if you dont know where you are in the hand then there is no point to calling the flop and checking the the turn because he will bet again and you will be faced with the same decision.

You could be facing JJ, QQ, KK, AKs (hearts), TT, 55, 22, 99-66. Obviously the AKs, 99-66 hands arent played this way by weak tight players. Would he smooth call with QQ\KK preflop? What type of hands does he raise flop bets with? Against a very aggressive player (post flop) you will be ahead here quite often (in which case I will probably check raise the turn) but if hes more straightforward then trying to get a cheap showdown or folding is probably the way to go.
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