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02-15-2006, 07:02 PM Post subject: Have to start thinking when someone reraises me!

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Camino Bravo - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:24:08 ET - 2006/02/15
Seat 1: Stripclubjunkie ($49.40)
Seat 2: mak337 ($64.30)
Seat 3: DLarson ($29.65)
Seat 4: LouisianaMike ($35.95)
Seat 5: Ryan Rodgers ($62.40)
Seat 6: Soda Pop ($6.90)
Seat 7: ChocoThunder ($29.85)
Seat 8: AAvKK ($30.50)
Seat 9: rocknds ($21.25)
Stripclubjunkie posts the small blind of $0.25
mak337 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stripclubjunkie [Ac Ks]
DLarson folds
LouisianaMike calls $0.50
Ryan Rodgers folds
Soda Pop folds
ChocoThunder calls $0.50
AAvKK folds
rocknds calls $0.50
Stripclubjunkie raises to $3
mak337 folds
LouisianaMike calls $2.50
ChocoThunder folds
rocknds calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [8d Ah 9s]
Stripclubjunkie bets $5.50
LouisianaMike raises to $11
rocknds folds
Stripclubjunkie raises to $46.40, and is all in
LouisianaMike calls $21.95, and is all in
Stripclubjunkie shows [Ac Ks]
LouisianaMike shows [Ad 9c]
Uncalled bet of $13.45 returned to Stripclubjunkie
*** TURN *** [8d Ah 9s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [8d Ah 9s 5s] [6c]
Stripclubjunkie shows a pair of Aces
LouisianaMike shows two pair, Aces and Nines
LouisianaMike wins the pot ($72.90) with two pair, Aces and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $75.90 | Rake $3
Board: [8d Ah 9s 5s 6c]
Seat 1: Stripclubjunkie (small blind) showed [Ac Ks] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: LouisianaMike showed [Ad 9c] and won ($72.90) with two pair, Aces and Nines

What should I be thinking when someone reraise me when I'm holding a strong hand...?

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02-15-2006, 07:02 PM

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Camino Bravo - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:26:29 ET - 2006/02/15
Seat 1: Stripclubjunkie ($50)
Seat 2: mak337 ($63.55)
Seat 3: DLarson ($30.35)
Seat 4: LouisianaMike ($72.40)
Seat 5: Ryan Rodgers ($62.40)
Seat 6: Soda Pop ($6.90)
Seat 7: ChocoThunder ($29.35)
Seat 8: AAvKK ($30.50)
Seat 9: rocknds ($18.25)
DLarson posts the small blind of $0.25
LouisianaMike posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Stripclubjunkie [Jh Js]
Ryan Rodgers calls $0.50
Soda Pop folds
Ryan Rodgers: take a walk
Ryan Rodgers: let the steam out
ChocoThunder calls $0.50
AAvKK folds
rocknds folds
Stripclubjunkie raises to $2.75
mak337 folds
DLarson folds
LouisianaMike folds
Ryan Rodgers folds
ChocoThunder calls $2.25
*** FLOP *** [Th 7s Kd]
ChocoThunder checks
Stripclubjunkie bets $2.50
ChocoThunder calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [Th 7s Kd] [Jc]
ChocoThunder checks
Stripclubjunkie bets $3.50
ChocoThunder raises to $7
Stripclubjunkie...
Stripclubjunkie raises to $44.75, and is all in
ChocoThunder calls $17.10, and is all in
Stripclubjunkie shows [Jh Js]
ChocoThunder shows [8d 9d]
Uncalled bet of $20.65 returned to Stripclubjunkie
Ryan Rodgers: i believe Justine Timberland is that songs preduces
*** RIVER *** [Th 7s Kd Jc] [4c]
Stripclubjunkie shows three of a kind, Jacks
ChocoThunder shows a straight, Jack high
ChocoThunder wins the pot ($57) with a straight, Jack high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $59.95 | Rake $2.95
Board: [Th 7s Kd Jc 4c]
Seat 1: Stripclubjunkie showed [Jh Js] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: ChocoThunder showed [8d 9d] and won ($57) with a straight, Jack high

I'm not even thinking about the straight possibility on the turn...Is this a leak?

02-15-2006, 07:21 PM

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First hand, slow down a bit and ask yourself "do I really want to go broke with TPTK?" not many people are going to re-raise you on the flop with a weaker hand than that, unless they think you are just C-betting.

Second hand, he check called you, then check raises you on the turn, this shows great strength. But I would have gone broke in that hand as well. You had 10 outs. I wouldnt lose sleep over that hand.

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02-15-2006, 07:23 PM

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In the first hand I would have cold called the reraise and saw what happened on the turn, and generally tried to minimize any further losses/gains for the hand.

On the second hand you could have maybe bet bigger on the flop. 89 is a popular hand. After then turn you played it fine I think. You're getting 2:1 on your money to put him all in and with your boat draw, you aren't getting raped too badly on odds. So you're play in the second hand seems fine.

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02-15-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Renton

In the first hand I would have cold called the reraise and saw what happened on the turn, and generally tried to minimize any further losses/gains for the hand.

I agree with you... When I reraise him allin, the only hands that will call me have me beat...Bad play...

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02-15-2006, 07:37 PM

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JJ hand...bet more on the flop. You gave OESD better odds to call than he should have had.

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02-15-2006, 07:39 PM

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JJ hand...bet more on the flop. You gave OESD better odds to call than he should have had.

But i was a bit afraid of the K on the flop...But should I just have bet pot?

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02-15-2006, 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpe

JJ hand...bet more on the flop. You gave OESD better odds to call than he should have had.

But i was a bit afraid of the K on the flop...But should I just have bet pot?

He checked to you. He wanted to know if you had a K (or anything), and your weak bet told him you didn't. Yeah, $5 would've been my bet.

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02-15-2006, 07:49 PM

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There is no reraise in either hand. Well actually there is but you were the one who reraised. You just got raised both times and check/raised the second time. So instead of thinking when someone reraises you, think before reraising.

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02-15-2006, 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpe

JJ hand...bet more on the flop. You gave OESD better odds to call than he should have had.

But i was a bit afraid of the K on the flop...But should I just have bet pot?

Here you create two problems for yourself.
1) As stated by Warpe, you give the OESD better odds to draw and given implied odds they'll take it most every time.
2) Your flop bet looks weak, so you second guess the re-raise. "Did he re-raise me because of my weak bets?".

I bet 3/4pot to full pot on the flop. Put the opponent to the tough decisions. And finally, Yes, if you didn't see the straight possiblity you got wrapped up in your cards and forgot about the overall poker hand. That is a leak.

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02-15-2006, 08:53 PM

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For the first hand, call the re-raise and re-analyze on the turn. Helps control the pot size so you don't go broke with TPTK.

Second hand, represent AK on the flop and bet the pot. Most of the time, only better hands will call you here, and the draws will fold.

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02-15-2006, 09:01 PM

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Hand 1: Out of position with a well defined hand. The EXACT hand the fishies will often put you on. I've written about this spot before. The cliff notes version says raise bigger or just call pre-flop because pot building will put you in a world of hurt and difficult decisions.

Hand 2: I lose my stack here too. Bad luck. We could talk about bet sizes, etc, but the scope of that conversation is much bigger than the hand in question and I don't think 1/2 potting that flop matters all that much in isolation.

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