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gohawks
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05-25-2005, 02:25 AM
Post subject: have i possibly found one of my leaks? only 2 hands to read!
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: iowa
Posts: 12
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I've been playing online for about 6 months now, years of experience in b&m games... anywho, i've been on a horrid losing streak, i've been within my bankroll(90% of the time) and still continue to go downhill... tomorrow i'm back to micros and an occasional 5+.50. i think i may value my high PP when the board is quite scary. i tend to play my hands such as i do in the following examples. i figure if they raise me i'm calling anywho. I jus' can't put them on any hands in these two instances. two straight hands btw...
PokerStars Game #1761850151: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/05/24 - 22:12:18 (ET)
Table 'Paaliaq III' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: dragon727 ($21.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Murdock1980 ($28.80 in chips)
Seat 3: humpknpumpkn ($21.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Elmatelo ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Caitiff19 ($19 in chips)
Seat 6: EstonianKing ($6.65 in chips)
Murdock1980: posts small blind $0.10
humpknpumpkn: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to humpknpumpkn [Kh Kc]
Elmatelo: folds
Caitiff19: folds
EstonianKing: calls $0.25
dragon727: folds
Murdock1980: raises $0.25 to $0.50
humpknpumpkn: raises $1.50 to $2
EstonianKing: folds
Murdock1980: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [9h 8d 7s]
Murdock1980: checks
humpknpumpkn: bets $2
Murdock1980: calls $2
*** TURN *** [9h 8d 7s] [6d]
Murdock1980: checks
humpknpumpkn: checks
*** RIVER *** [9h 8d 7s 6d] [6c]
Murdock1980: checks
humpknpumpkn: bets $4
Murdock1980: folds
humpknpumpkn collected $7.85 from pot
humpknpumpkn: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Board [9h 8d 7s 6d 6c]
Seat 1: dragon727 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Murdock1980 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: humpknpumpkn (big blind) collected ($7.85)
Seat 4: Elmatelo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Caitiff19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EstonianKing folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #1761859469: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/05/24 - 22:13:30 (ET)
Table 'Paaliaq III' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: dragon727 ($21.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Murdock1980 ($24.80 in chips)
Seat 3: humpknpumpkn ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Elmatelo ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Caitiff19 ($19 in chips)
Seat 6: EstonianKing ($6.40 in chips)
humpknpumpkn: posts small blind $0.10
Elmatelo: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to humpknpumpkn [Ad Ac]
Caitiff19: folds
EstonianKing: folds
dragon727: calls $0.25
Murdock1980: raises $0.75 to $1
humpknpumpkn: raises $5 to $6
Elmatelo: folds
dragon727: folds
Murdock1980: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [6c Ks Qh]
humpknpumpkn: bets $19.10 and is all-in
Murdock1980: folds
humpknpumpkn collected $11.90 from pot
humpknpumpkn: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.50 | Rake $0.60
Board [6c Ks Qh]
Seat 1: dragon727 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Murdock1980 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: humpknpumpkn (small blind) collected ($11.90)
Seat 4: Elmatelo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Caitiff19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EstonianKing folded before Flop (didn't bet)
the second hand obviously wasn't as scary as the first, and luckily i pulled a profit with these, or could/should i have played differently to try and skank out more money...??? i went on to leave the table and come straight here. i'm breaking for a bit. good night and thank you for any feedback!
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JeffreyGB
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jenks, OK
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In the first hand, I'd have raised more on the flop. Find out where you're at...his call doesn't really tell you anything, though the check makes him holding the straight unlikely (so you're safe to bet the river, which I'd again have bet more on).
In the second hand, pushing seems a tad over the top. The only hands that will call are the ones that beat you (eg QQ, KK, KQ; all of which are possible from the preflop action). The straight is worth worrying about, but a tad unlikely - AJ or AT have gutshots and JT has an OESD. JT is very unlikely from the preflop action. The others are fairly unlikely too. In any case, you can take away their odds with a smaller bet ($8 to pot sized). Here you also get money from Kx hands that are likely to call.
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BobbySalami
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Limbo
Posts: 433
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Here's how I see it....
#1....Well you are obviously ahead PF......and with his call of 8xBB, unless he is an extremely loose....has some kind of starting hand. After that flop he maybe sitting on TT, or a lower PP, maybe AQ, AK. It looks to me like he had the latter.
But I would bet that flop pretty hard.....I'd rather take the pot down there then get sucked out on......then if the hand continues, reevaluate the situation.
#2.....looks like Murdock likes to call big PF bets with nothing special.....I dont know about the flop play...someone un-newbish can take that one. But I dont think I would push.....
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
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Bet 4 on the first flop. Betting 2 then checking the 4 straight board is asking for trouble.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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ender555
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 647
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hand 1 bet more on the flop
hand 2 bet less, no need to go all in cold, the only time you get called is when you are beat by a set/2pair of kq.
I would probly just bet 2/3 of the pot, and yes if they have a set/2 pair you are calling here anyways when they put u all-in. but you still might make a little more money from someone who has AK.
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