Originally Posted by vqc

fnord, why do u have to let everyone know that im a donk?
why?

Originally Posted by Knytestorme

thinking back on what you said about him being weak tight and the fact he acted before you, so your being in the hand or not had no bearing on his decision I'd probably expand my range of hands for him to flat call to be AQ/QQ.

The river raise could indicate that he was waiting to see if an A/K hit or if could be my first thoughts.

I'd still put him on a set and probably come back over the top to like $50 to test him (also probably why I'm in a slight downswing last few days ~lol~) and be willing to push if he does or I'd trust the read on him and, if he hasn't shown any tricky plays so far, belive that his raise on the river indicates that he liked the 8.

Originally Posted by vqc

how often does a weak tightie at 100NL open limp AQ or QQ preflop??

Originally Posted by dalecooper

A more interesting question is where does 3-betting fit in, vs. pushing/calling/folding.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Any river line with the word "fold" makes me want to vommit.

Originally Posted by dalecooper

Understandably; but what does this particular guy push after this action that you're ahead of?

Originally Posted by Fnord

I think there is a high enough chance he auto-felts 33/55 that I can't laydown here.

Originally Posted by Rondavu

Opponent Shows 69 spades

Originally Posted by mxiu

I've sat with rob a lot.

Originally Posted by Fnord

What do you think of my read?

FWIW: I pwned him on both tables. It felt good. I should post the JJ hand.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Im still raising thsi to $36 for value and almost inevitably calling any other bets.

Originally Posted by dalecooper

So when's the grand unveiling, Fnord? What did you do & what did he have?

Originally Posted by Fnord

He had bottom set. I felt like I had him by the balls and let him off the hook.

It felt a little better later on when I was able to put him on an exact hand and stack him.

Originally Posted by Fnord

If we re-raise, I think he's weak enough to call with bottom set quite often. Hence I like the push. If you assume he can't get away from a set here and maybe even pays off with a trappy AA/KK.

I like to minimize the chances my opponents get to put in extra money when they have me smoked.

Originally Posted by Fnord

How is this a better line than pushing?

Originally Posted by mxiu

Your read was fine. Not to be results-oriented, but wiwrobs definitely wouldn't play 88 like this and given reads, (and my personal reads on him) and he shows a straight here once every 10K hands or something.

Originally Posted by dalecooper

I don't understand. If he flopped a straight with 46 in a classic BB special, you're saying he wouldn't slowplay it against an aggressive player like Fnord? He would (and did) slowplay bottom set all the way to the river on a board that was friendly to straight AND flush draws, but he wouldn't slowplay the actual nuts? I is confused. As far as 88, I don't haven't played with the guy, but I can see a lot of passive players doing this with 88 if they think Fnord is bluffing them a lot. Raising the flop is better, but raising before the river with bottom set on that board would be better too, and he didn't do that.

I also think 6s9s makes perfect sense with the action, but that's a very specific hand to put him on.

Originally Posted by mxiu

Do post the other hands though. I've never actually been in a pot with him and am curious.

Originally Posted by Fnord

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($161.70)
MP1 ($40)
MP2 (winrobs) ($84.80)
MP3 ($122.90)
CO ($64.70)
Button ($127)
SB ($205)
Fnord ($145.10)
UTG ($96)

Preflop: Fnord is BB with J, J.
3 folds, MP2 (winrobs) calls $1, 3 folds, SB completes, Fnord checks.

Flop: ($3) 5, 9, 6 (3 players)
SB bets $2, Fnord calls $2, wiwrobs raises to $5, SB calls $3, Fnord calls $3.

Turn: ($18) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Fnord checks, wiwrobs bets $10, SB folds, Fnord calls $10.

River: ($38) 4 (2 players)
Fnord checks, wiwrobs checks.

Final Pot: $38

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($100.50)
UTG+1 ($112.60)
Fnord ($181.85)
MP2 ($155.15)
MP3 ($103.30)
CO ($131.95)
Button ($97.70)
SB (winrobs) ($71.80)
BB ($107.65)

Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with K, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Fnord calls $1, 4 folds, SB (winrobs) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) A, T, T (4 players)
wiwrobs checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Fnord checks.

Turn: ($4) 2 (4 players)
wiwrobs bets $1, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $1, Fnord calls $1.

River: ($7) 9 (3 players)
wiwrobs checks, UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets $6, wiwrobs folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $13

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($112.75)
MP1 ($139.15)
Fnord ($185.05)
MP3 ($148.85)
CO ($108.85)
Button ($129.95)
SB ($96.70)
BB (winrobs) ($69.70)
UTG ($96)

Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with 3, 3.
3 folds, Fnord raises to $4, 4 folds, BB (winrobs) calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) K, 2, A (2 players)
wiwrobs checks, Fnord bets $6, wiwrobs calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) 3 (2 players)
wiwrobs checks, Fnord bets $15, wiwrobs raises to $30, Fnord calls $15.

River: ($80.50) 5 (2 players)
wiwrobs bets $29.7 (All-In), Fnord calls $29.70.

Final Pot: $139.90

Originally Posted by Fnord

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($161.70)
MP1 ($40)
MP2 (winrobs) ($84.80)
MP3 ($122.90)
CO ($64.70)
Button ($127)
SB ($205)
Fnord ($145.10)
UTG ($96)

Preflop: Fnord is BB with J, J.
3 folds, MP2 (winrobs) calls $1, 3 folds, SB completes, Fnord raises to $5.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

the guy isnt even sat with a full buy in and looks like a super-slow play fish to me.