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Old 01-31-2008, 01:47 PM     Post subject: Hand vs. a chaser... #1 (permalink)  
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I want a little feedback on this. I've prob. only got about 1K hands under my belt (FYI). The evil villian has been raising with big hands, folding nothing, and calling when he's chasing. Being UTG, this is about as soft of a hand as i'll play... I'm just wondering if i should have changed how i bet this hand to a) get him to fold, or b) save some $. Feedback? (Sorry, i can't get the hand converter to spit this out right...)

PokerStars Game #14954498460: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/01/31 - 09:15:18 (ET)Table 'Kleopatra' 9-max
Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: habs1978 ($0.96 in chips)
Seat 2: REDBRG ($3.44 in chips)
Seat 3: crash848 ($2.94 in chips)
Seat 4: mrhully1 ($1 in chips)
Seat 5: bolondoy ($1.02 in chips)
Seat 6: CrossMan1000 ($0.53 in chips)
Seat 7: SubnetMask ($3.03 in chips)
Seat 9: Skymax1986 ($5.78 in chips)
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Skymax1986: posts small blind $0.01
habs1978: posts big blind $0.02
mrhully1: posts big blind $0.02
CrossMan1000: posts small & big blinds $0.03

*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to REDBRG [Kd Qd]

REDBRG: raises $0.06 to $0.08
crash848: folds
mrhully1: calls $0.06
bolondoy is disconnected bolondoy is connected bolondoy: folds
CrossMan1000: calls $0.06
SubnetMask: folds
Skymax1986: folds
habs1978: calls $0.06

*** FLOP *** [Kh 3c 7h]

habs1978: checks
REDBRG: bets $0.20
mrhully1: folds
CrossMan1000: calls $0.20
habs1978: folds

*** TURN *** [Kh 3c 7h] [2s]

REDBRG: bets $0.24
CrossMan1000: calls $0.24 and is all-in

*** RIVER *** [Kh 3c 7h 2s] [Ah]

*** SHOW DOWN ***REDBRG: shows [Kd Qd] (a pair of Kings)
CrossMan1000: shows [9h 5h] (a flush, Ace high)
CrossMan1000 collected $1.17 from pot
REDBRG swears softly under his breath

*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1.22 | Rake $0.05 Board [Kh 3c 7h 2s Ah]Seat 1: habs1978 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 2: REDBRG showed [Kd Qd] and lost with a pair of KingsSeat 3: crash848 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: mrhully1 folded on the FlopSeat 5: bolondoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: CrossMan1000 showed [9h 5h] and won ($1.17) with a flush, Ace highSeat 7: SubnetMask (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Skymax1986 (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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First of all, if he´s chasing we don´t want him to fold, we only what to extract the max value we can get of his draw and to lay his draw a bad price so he can´t chase profitable. If he cant fold hearts bet full pot on every street, given his 1/4 stack I doubt we can find a fold anywhere in this hand.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:16 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Wrong mental approach. Trying to save money = bad bad bad. You got it in with the best hand and lost. That's poker. In the long run you make money here.

Sorry to sound harsh just trying to make you less results orientated.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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look at it this way... since he's paying too much to draw to his flush, you actually win
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:21 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Wrong mental approach. Trying to save money = bad bad bad. You got it in with the best hand and lost. That's poker. In the long run you make money here.

Sorry to sound harsh just trying to make you less results orientated.
Thanks... after a few minutes away from this i realized that being a 3:1 fav (that right?) based on where i put him (chasing) i should be happy i got him to throw the whole pile in the middle...
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:30 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Good choices = $$, but sometimes which makes you think you made a bad choice. Bad choices = but sometimes $$ which leads you to more bad choices.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:45 PM     Post subject: Bet size #7 (permalink)  
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Another question - was my bet size on the flop the right size to make it -EV for him to stay with the hand?
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Another question - was my bet size on the flop the right size to make it -EV for him to stay with the hand?
Yes. He made a big mistake
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:51 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 He made a mistake playing those cards with his stack anyway, anything you do in this hand is a mistake for him to play.
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:14 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I'd bet more on the flop so we can get it all in on the turn.
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