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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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Fnord
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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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Fnord
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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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Fnord
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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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Fnord
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12-23-2003, 11:50 PM
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I've been doing a bunch of analysis on hands I've been playing and thought "gee wouldn't it be nice to have a large sample of real money hands." I wonder if there are other players like myself that could use that kind of data.
Here is what I'm thinking...
- o Put together a program that processes hands from a Party Poker (and other casinos?) hand history. It will strip out information identifying the specific players involved.
o Have an email address where formatted or unformatted hand history can be submitted.
o Keep a database of all submissions
o Have a private discussion forum for contributors.
Then track the amount of hands contributed by each person. A certain number is required for limited data access. A greater number for full data access and access to the forum. Also keep a membership maintenance requirement.
Any thoughts?
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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Xianti
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This sounds swank. I would be interested.
So you DO play at PartyPoker, eh, Fnord? I've seen you there.
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ttanaka
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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ttanaka
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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ttanaka
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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ttanaka
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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ttanaka
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12-24-2003, 07:28 AM
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Interesting idea, we probably could build something like that. What would you specifically like to track from the hand histories... ie - if we could build custom queries against the database of hands, what would you want to see and by what criteria?
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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Fnord
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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Fnord
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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Fnord
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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Fnord
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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Fnord
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The hypothesis that got me started on this idea is: Is there a correlation between betting behavior before the flop and the contents of the flop (particularly Aces) and unbid hands behind you? Given that Aces and (to a lesser extent) Kings are less likely to be mucked than other single cards. This correlation is probably the strongest when 7 players fold to you on the button, where I postulate the odds of an Ace being in one of the blinds and/or in the flop is significantly higher (as much as 2x as likely.) I ran some numbers, but without real data it's hard to draw any conclusions or determine how far they carry.
Furthermore, collecting the data could open up all kinds of interesting investigations.
The biggest concern setting something like this up is figuring out participants' comfort level is sharing data and what data needs to be hidden to protect participants' betting behavior and identity.
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