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ponyboy
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06-10-2008, 01:26 PM
Post subject: Hand at 5nl for analysis
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Flush
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 379
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Villain has been calling with top pair weak kicker quite frequently and showed down several weak hands. My only question is should I have raised the turn bet? Once the 4th heart hit he gave me right pot odds to call because I had so many outs. When I saw the river I almost put this in the bad beat forum.
** Hand # 2048081398 starting - 2008-06-10 09:17:27
** Fresh Threads [Hold 'em] (0.02|0.05 NL - Cash Game) Real Money
Dovydasgl sitting in seat 1 with $3.07
KingKRL sitting in seat 2 with $6.86
saiko_ore sitting in seat 3 with $3.14[Dealer]
galuha sitting in seat 4 with $4.28
libekas sitting in seat 5 with $4.46
azu67 sitting in seat 6 with $5.49
ponyboy8 sitting in seat 7 with $6.04
F-o-u-x sitting in seat 8 with $5.98
tiuks sitting in seat 9 with $4.22
xshaohao sitting in seat 10 with $2.24
galuha posted the small blind - $0.02
libekas posted the big blind - $0.05
** Dealing cards to ponyboy8: Kh, Ah
azu67 called - $0.05
ponyboy8 raised to $0.30
F-o-u-x folded
tiuks folded
xshaohao folded
Dovydasgl folded
KingKRL folded
saiko_ore folded
galuha folded
libekas called - $0.30
azu67 called - $0.30
** Dealing the flop: 5d, 3s, 4h
libekas checked
azu67 bet - $0.05
ponyboy8 called - $0.05
libekas called - $0.05
** Dealing the turn: 10h
libekas bet - $0.50
azu67 folded
ponyboy8 called - $0.50
** Dealing the river: 3h
libekas bet - $0.55
ponyboy8 raised to $1.50
libekas called - $1.50
ponyboy8 shows: Kh, Ah (a flush, ace high)
libekas shows: 5s, 5h (a full house, fives over threes)
libekas wins $4.82 from the main pot
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BankItDrew
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I think you played it fine TBH.
BTW, this is not a bad beat. Not once were you ahead.
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BrianMac
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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its unlucky but i fold to that turn bet, for players at this level that is a big bet and you still don't have a made hand
i'm grinding this level right now and i rarely play without a made hand after the turn comes out
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BankItDrew
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4-of-a-Kind
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^^^^^
you'd be missing out on implied odds value. assuming villain has a set, we still have a better hand by the river at least 1 in 5. So according to that, we only need to get in at least another $0.80.
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badgers
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BrianMac
for players at this level that is a big bet and you still don't have a made hand
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I lolled.
we have a FD a gutshot and 2 overcards. This is a big draw and we're getting >3:1. Easy call considering implied odds. Someone posted somewhere about there's no such thing as a made hand, download pokerstove or something.
I think you need to be shoving the river, that would have caused you to lose more in this particular instance but that is irrelevant. If he has shown down several weak hands then you hand is good enough to shove against his range.
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BrianMac
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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ill apply that for next time
say you were getting like 2-2.5 to 1 would you still make the same play or just call?
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ponyboy
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Flush
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by badgers
Quote:
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Originally Posted by BrianMac
for players at this level that is a big bet and you still don't have a made hand
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I lolled.
we have a FD a gutshot and 2 overcards. This is a big draw and we're getting >3:1. Easy call considering implied odds. Someone posted somewhere about there's no such thing as a made hand, download pokerstove or something.
I think you need to be shoving the river, that would have caused you to lose more in this particular instance but that is irrelevant. If he has shown down several weak hands then you hand is good enough to shove against his range.
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This is exactly what I thought which is why I called. This player had made big bets with top pair and I had 17 outs to improve (which I did, he just improved more lol).
Plus, what is considered a "made hand"? If you had been sitting at the table for a while taking notes like I was a made hand to these guys was two pair. I had to go with my read thinking two pair or straight, both of which I was clearly ahead of.
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
Join Date: May 2008
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you played it fine, the only lol moment in this hand is villain not raising the river.
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