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10-04-2005, 03:16 AM Post subject: Gotta Shake Your Head Sometimes

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I know it's only NL25 (I'm usually up playing NL100 and some 200), but I'm playing some NL25 to clear some bonuses...This stuff just cracks me up sometimes.

***** Hand History for Game 2821246632 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 03, 23:09:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 54863 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 5: rcesp3700 ( $37.43 )
Seat 6: CarbondaleB ( $3.20 )
Seat 10: jwasnock ( $35.27 )
Seat 3: GWalden32 ( $38.45 )
Seat 4: See_U_At_Rvr ( $23.25 )
Seat 2: mahit3 ( $9.75 )
Seat 8: stoner311 ( $8.75 )
Seat 7: Coopmoney111 ( $10.89 )
stoner311 posts small blind [$0.10].
jwasnock posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GWalden32 [ Ah As ]
>You have options at Table 37235 Table!.
>You have options at Table 37148 Table!.
mahit3 folds.
GWalden32 raises [$1.35].
See_U_At_Rvr folds.
rcesp3700 calls [$1.35].
CarbondaleB folds.
stoner311 folds.
jwasnock calls [$1.10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 3d, 9c ]
jwasnock checks.
GWalden32 bets [$3].
>You have options at Table 37148 Table!.
rcesp3700 folds.
jwasnock calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
jwasnock checks.
GWalden32 bets [$8].
>You have options at Table 37235 Table!.
jwasnock calls [$8].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
rickenbacker has joined the table.
jwasnock bets [$8].
>You have options at Table 37148 Table!.
GWalden32 calls [$8].
jwasnock shows [ 8c, Jc ] a flush, jack high.
GWalden32 doesn't show [ Ah, As ] a pair of aces.
jwasnock wins $40.05 from the main pot with a flush, jack high.
EVEDDER12 has joined the table.
stoner311 has left the table.

I put him on an over pair the whole time, not a set. My reasoning? I dunno, it just didn't feel like a set. With his check/call on the turn it was confirmed (if he had a set by the turn he would have check-raised me guarenteed instead of check-calling and letting me see one more card. He would have put me to a decision right there.)

But then there's a third club on the river. Could he be chasing some sort of 'effed up runner-runner flush of some sort?

What's your play here?

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LeFou

10-04-2005, 04:32 AM

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i don't think the turn check/call confirms overpair at all. The reason he's still okay playing his set passively is that nothing the slightest bit threatening is developing on the board. So he figures to catch you for a great many chips at the end.

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10-04-2005, 04:34 AM

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Off I just looked at the results. That's fecesicious.

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10-04-2005, 01:22 PM

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Well, he has two overs and a back door flush draw. Couple that with him thinking you totally missed the flop, and you have yourself a curious george who catches. Sometimes I do something similar to this if I caught one pair on a rag flop with a back door flush draw. The reason being the implied odds are outstanding for a back door flush draw if you hit. Relative to other flush draws I mean.

Now this guy is just a moron, because he hangs around to catch it, and then totally disregards the value he gained by paying dearly to make a deceptive hand. Loose passives have no idea how bad they are. They just continue to pay too much up front, and then never extract anything on the back end.

It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

10-04-2005, 05:27 PM

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Yeah, it just confused the hell out of me. My original read said that the guy didn't have crap. I was correct. He had a runner-runner straight draw and a runner-runner flush draw. He check-called a bet on the flop AND the turn to get his river club which whipped me.

I just thought the hand was funny. I check the HH's all the time to see what I'm going up against, and usually it's me whipping some donkey's ass for making a play like this. This time the donkey bit me, and it's hilarious.

I guess this is why I've had a four or five sessions over the last three weeks where I'll 8-table these suckers and make $50-75 per hour doing so over the course of a 2-4 hour session.

10-04-2005, 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

Off I just looked at the results. That's fecesicious.

Look at you using big words and all that. I couldn't find it over at dictionary.com, so I don't know what the hell it means, BUT I LIKE IT.

Yeah, what a horrible play...makes me laugh.

LeFou

10-04-2005, 09:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate George

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeFou

Off I just looked at the results. That's fecesicious.

Look at you using big words and all that. I couldn't find it over at dictionary.com, so I don't know what the hell it means, BUT I LIKE IT.

It's a LeFouism. It means "of, relating to, or characterized by feces"

"What are feces?"
"Baby mice!"
-Donnie Darko

ChrisBCritter

10-05-2005, 07:56 AM

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I'll be dictionary boy... it's spelled facetious

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10-05-2005, 01:30 PM

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lol thats even funnier!!

you are such a cockrocket!
actually i think you'll find it's spelt Crocket http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=crocket

Damn i cant figure out the url thing. Now who's the dumbass?

LeFou

10-06-2005, 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

Well, he has two overs and a back door flush draw.

Is 8>9 at your home game?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondavu

the implied odds are outstanding for a back door flush draw if you hit. Relative to other flush draws I mean.

They better be, since they come in about 1/20 the time. This pot, for example, would need to roll up to about $60 to make this call "correct". I think the only time it would get that high is if George made a higher flush than J.

This is pure feces o' fish. It's very different from when you have a pair and a back door. Trips give you a near cinch. This guy has 1 overcard, which is very likely not good even if it hits. (8 kicker? Jacks versus PFR?) And a backdoor (count 1.5 outs maybe) which is also not going to be good every time.

I don't think there's any excuse at all for this play. Let's hope he keeps doing it.

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