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Iconoclastic

05-14-2006, 08:06 PM Post subject: good trips in BB on raised multiway flop

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MP1: ($46.10 in chips)
MP2: ($75.15 in chips)
Button: ($65.90 in chips)
Hero: ($74.75 in chips)

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with J

3 folds
MP1 raises to $1.5 (average characteristics, not too Loose/Tight or Agg/Passive)
MP2 calls (Loose)
2 folds
Button calls (Loose Passive)
SB folds
Hero calls.

Flop: T

($6.25, 4 players)
Hero ???

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zaaaaaak

05-14-2006, 10:57 PM

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Kind of tricky.

If you lead out here, this gives the raiser the chance to raise you with any two and scare you into check/call mode.

A check/raise looks strong, but will probably give you a good sense of where you are in the hand. If he just calls, you can lead out on the turn pretty safely, and if he raises you can muck depending on your read.

Leading out with the intention of re-raising a raise and folding to an all in is an option.

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Lukie

05-14-2006, 11:06 PM

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I'd check, preflop raiser is on your direct left and seeing what develops will give you a ton of good info on how to continue.

Iconoclastic

05-15-2006, 06:07 PM

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As you can see this is a pretty tricky situation as the advice thus far has been quite different.

Any more comments before I reveal what happened?

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05-16-2006, 01:02 AM

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Shorthanded I raise AJs preflop.On the flop I lead out;check calling and then raising the turn or CR the flop shows too much strength ESP shorthanded.

On the turn I get it all in.Pay off boats if you miss your Ace of the case Quad.

Iconoclastic

05-16-2006, 02:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores

Nah dude, it's 10 handed full ring. I just put in the 4 relevant stacks but it's not shorthanded at all.

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05-16-2006, 05:59 PM

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3 folds, MP1 raises to $1.5, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T

($6.25, 4 players)
Hero checks (information), MP1 bets $1.5, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls (Figured this for a WA/AB with a bet and a cold caller and wanted to minimize the pot and get a cheap showdown).

Turn: 9

($10.75, 3 players)
Hero checks (same thing), MP1 bets $1.5, Button calls, Hero calls (Great, now AK, AQ, AT, AND A9 all have me crushed. What is the Loose Passive button calling two streets with? What would MP1 raise PF and bet two streets with? Isn't this what I wanted, a cheap showdown in a WA/WB situation? What hands would call a check-raise in this situation that I beat? So I call for the cheap showdown).

River: Q

($15.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $4.5, Hero folds (When a Loose Passive player bets 1/3 of the pot, he likes his hand. Seeing as how most of the Aces that would call a preflop raise are ahead of me, and there is still the original preflop raiser to act behind me who has a slim chance of slowplaying a monster, I don't have over 25% pot odds to call), MP1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $4.5 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $15.25

I'm not sure if Leading Out would get me a cheaper showdown on the River because I might have to call a Minraise. The River also made a straight possible. Somebody could also have made a Full House with a pocket pair at some point so this isn't as weak tight as it seems.

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