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Cocco_Bill

12-30-2004, 05:54 AM Post subject: A good time to fold AA

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It's not only bad beats I'm getting with pocket aces. Here is one just showing piss poor play. Almost every hand you would raise pre flop was beating me here, yet I call all the way to the river..

I guess the frustration of the bad beats was getting to me. "Those pocket aces owed me a pot"

***** Hand History for Game 1362246376 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Dec 29 04:39:46 EST 2004
Table Check and Mate (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Joffell ( $62.8)
Seat 2: TeinGuy ( $48.1)
Seat 3: sean204 ( $94.31)
Seat 4: Drunk_Mime ( $50.75)
Seat 5: mongchacha ( $40.5)
Seat 6: bphelon007 ( $151.7)
Seat 7: Boonaru ( $52.4)
Seat 8: leftyocto ( $50.12)
Seat 9: B00mdogger ( $238.77)
Boonaru posts small blind (0.5)
leftyocto posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, Ac ]
B00mdogger folds.
Joffell folds.
TeinGuy folds.
sean204 raises (4.5) to 4.5
Drunk_Mime folds.
mongchacha folds.
Boonaru raises (7.5) to 8
leftyocto folds.
sean204 calls (3.5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, Qs, Qd ]
Boonaru bets (10)
sean204 calls (10)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
Boonaru checks.
sean204 bets (22)
Boonaru calls (22)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Boonaru checks.
sean204 bets (13)
Boonaru calls (12.4)
Boonaru is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $102.8 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $102.8 | Side Pot 1: $0.6 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Kd Qs Qd Ts 6c ]
Joffell balance $62.8, didn't bet (folded)
TeinGuy balance $48.1, didn't bet (folded)
sean204 balance $144.71, bet $53, collected $103.4, net +$50.4 [ Kh Ks ] [ a full house, Kings full of queens -- Kh,Ks,Kd,Qs,Qd ]
Drunk_Mime balance $50.75, didn't bet (folded)
mongchacha balance $40.5, didn't bet (folded)
bphelon007 balance $151.7, sits out
Boonaru balance $0, lost $52.4 [ Ad Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- Ad,Ac,Kd,Qs,Qd ]
leftyocto balance $49.12, lost $1 (folded)
B00mdogger balance $238.77, didn't bet (folded)

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Corey

12-30-2004, 03:51 PM

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AA hard to fold to many ppl.

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allLiving

12-30-2004, 03:59 PM

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Slow down after the smooth call on the flop.

Cocco_Bill

12-30-2004, 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by allLiving

Slow down after the smooth call on the flop.

You mean fold? I was the one incorrectly calling his bets after the turn card. I guess I was hoping that he was holding AK. JJ would be a bit too optimistica as he wouldnt bet into me with that hand.

KK QQ AQ AJ TT were all beating my pocket aces...should be an easy fold

Cocco_Bill

12-30-2004, 05:39 PM

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AA really is my unlucky hand. Here I make a bad call on the river out of frustration...

I am below 30% with AA for my last 14 times I hit that hand when it goes to the river. I am 0-4 when I hit a set of aces or kings in my last week of play. It does not hurt that much now that I have been making an overall profit the last few days again..

This was an aggressive table, so I was hoping to call and then re-raise.

***** Hand History for Game 1367390913 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Thursday, December 30, 13:21:23 EDT 2004
Table Icy cool (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: sean204 ( $90.75 )
Seat 3: chucky99999 ( $43.8 )
Seat 6: marcdl ( $97.64 )
Seat 8: gretzky111 ( $155.4 )
Seat 9: Boonaru ( $31.45 )
Seat 4: Comin4You ( $16.5 )
Seat 7: O_Neg ( $40.15 )
Seat 5: gettincards ( $15.5 )
Seat 10: kiiiia ( $62.3 )
Seat 1: hoopie4020 ( $49 )
O_Neg posts small blind [$0.5].
gretzky111 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ah As ]
Boonaru calls [$1].
hoopie4020 calls [$1].
sean204 folds.
chucky99999 calls [$1].
Comin4You folds.
gettincards folds.
marcdl calls [$1].
O_Neg calls [$0.5].
gretzky111 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Ts, Ac ]
O_Neg checks.
gretzky111 checks.
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Boonaru bets [$3].
hoopie4020 folds.
chucky99999 folds.
marcdl calls [$3].
O_Neg calls [$3].
gretzky111 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
O_Neg checks.
Boonaru bets [$4].
marcdl calls [$4].
O_Neg folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Boonaru checks.
marcdl bets [$25].
Boonaru is all-In [$23.45]
marcdl shows [ 5h, Jh ] a straight, ten to ace.
Boonaru doesn't show [ Ah, As ] three of a kind, aces.
marcdl wins $1.55 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
marcdl wins $66.9 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

a500lbgorilla

12-30-2004, 05:42 PM

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Ugh. Hardly ever is a huge overbet on the river a bluff. I made the same mistake of underbetting my set to lead people on on a scary flop. Big mistake.

Bet stronger on the flop and turn. Fold to the river. Also, don't post the results for less biased analysis.

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Cocco_Bill

12-30-2004, 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I completely agree, I posted the results as it is quite obvious that it was a bad call and I was up against a straight.

Cocco_Bill

12-31-2004, 12:46 PM

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Edit: cardson feature still doesn't work

I am just hoping AA will in some distant future become a profitable hand to play. At the moment I am losing so much with it that its almost absurd.

Can you guess the result of this one?

***** Hand History for Game 1371285271 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 08:38:53 EST 2004
Table Lord of the table (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: tenBBhr ( $32)
Seat 2: viktor939 ( $48.35)
Seat 3: kevin1245 ( $50.5)
Seat 4: Boonaru ( $37.9)
Seat 5: Skalman5 ( $50)
Seat 6: SLICK31 ( $25.25)
Seat 7: JustinKase21 ( $19.64)
Seat 8: Leatherwings ( $54)
Seat 9: le_peloton ( $48)
Seat 10: jarlaxle133 ( $119.5)
kevin1245 posts small blind (0.5)
Boonaru posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, Ah ]
SLICK31 folds.
JustinKase21 raises (4) to 4
Leatherwings calls (4)
le_peloton calls (4)
jarlaxle133 folds.
tenBBhr folds.
viktor939 calls (4)
kevin1245 folds.
Boonaru raises (36.9) to 37.9
Boonaru is all-In.
JustinKase21 calls (15.64)
JustinKase21 is all-In.
Leatherwings folds.
le_peloton folds.
viktor939 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $49.23 with JustinKase21
Creating Side Pot 1 with $18.26 with Boonaru
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Kd, 7c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $49.23 | Side Pot 1: $18.26 | Rake: $2.55
Board: [ 9c Kd 7c Kc 9s ]
tenBBhr balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
viktor939 balance $44.35, lost $4 (folded)
kevin1245 balance $50, lost $0.5 (folded)

Cocco_Bill

12-31-2004, 01:41 PM

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***** Hand History for Game 1371031910 *****
cocacola2000 has left the table.
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 05:23:02 EST 2004
Table Addictive Callers (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: mega_dittos ( $96.35)
Seat 2: saleen03 ( $81.05)
Seat 4: bokykovy ( $38.6)
Seat 5: cardman98 ( $49)
Seat 6: KingBushido ( $50)
Seat 7: dabudabuda ( $76.95)
Seat 8: SF_Horn ( $51.05)
Seat 9: Boonaru ( $55.6)
Seat 10: machine0001 ( $59.6)
mega_dittos posts small blind (0.5)
saleen03 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ks, Kd ]
bokykovy calls (1)
cardman98 folds.
KingBushido folds.
dabudabuda folds.
SF_Horn folds.
Boonaru raises (4) to 4
machine0001 folds.
mega_dittos raises (6.5) to 7
saleen03 folds.
bokykovy folds.
Boonaru raises (11) to 15
mega_dittos calls (8)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 2d, 5d ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru bets (20)
mega_dittos calls (20)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4s ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $69 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3s 2d 5d 4s 6c ]
mega_dittos balance $95.85, bet $35, collected $34.5, lost -$0.5 [ Qs Kc ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6c,5d,4s,3s,2d ]
saleen03 balance $80.05, lost $1 (folded)
bokykovy balance $37.6, lost $1 (folded)
cardman98 balance $49, didn't bet (folded)
KingBushido balance $50, didn't bet (folded)
dabudabuda balance $76.95, didn't bet (folded)
SF_Horn balance $51.05, didn't bet (folded)
Boonaru balance $55.1, bet $35, collected $34.5, lost -$0.5 [ Ks Kd ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6c,5d,4s,3s,2d ]
machine0001 balance $59.6, didn't bet (folded)

Cocco_Bill

12-31-2004, 01:42 PM

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***** Hand History for Game 1371362667 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 09:34:31 EST 2004
Table Lord of the table (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Bohlicious ( $20)
Seat 2: viktor939 ( $54.5)
Seat 3: kevin1245 ( $56.1)
Seat 4: Boonaru ( $39.81)
Seat 5: Skalman5 ( $78.8)
Seat 6: eyedrawdead ( $0)
Seat 7: sassyx1004 ( $47.2)
Seat 8: Leatherwings ( $78.68)
Seat 9: fog14216 ( $95.4)
Seat 10: winmo ( $42.75)
Leatherwings posts small blind (0.5)
fog14216 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kh, Kd ]
winmo folds.
Bohlicious calls (1)
viktor939 folds.
kevin1245 raises (2) to 2
Boonaru raises (5) to 5
Skalman5 folds.
sassyx1004 folds.
Leatherwings folds.
fog14216 folds.
Bohlicious folds.
kevin1245 calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 5d, 2c ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (8)
kevin1245 calls (8)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (10)
kevin1245 calls (10)
** Dealing River ** : [ Td ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (16.81)
Boonaru is all-In.
kevin1245 calls (16.81)
Creating Main Pot with $79.12 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $79.12 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3s 5d 2c 6c Td ]
Bohlicious balance $19, lost $1 (folded)
viktor939 balance $54.5, didn't bet (folded)
kevin1245 balance $95.41, bet $39.81, collected $79.12, net +$39.31 [ Th Ts ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Th,Ts,Td,6c,5d ]
Boonaru balance $0, lost $39.81 [ Kh Kd ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Kd,Td,6c,5d ]
Skalman5 balance $78.8, didn't bet (folded)
UltimateRush balance $50, sits out
sassyx1004 balance $47.2, didn't bet (folded)
Leatherwings balance $78.18, lost $0.5 (folded)
fog14216 balance $94.4, lost $1 (folded)
winmo balance $42.75, didn't bet (folded)

Cocco_Bill

12-31-2004, 01:49 PM

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Lucky that I am a winning player with other cards than KK AA, otherwise I would have been dead broke long ago..

Cocco_Bill

01-01-2005, 06:34 PM

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This is not funny anymore.. Its not getting any better instead worse. Over the last two weeks I have lost about 500$ playing KK, AA and my win % heads up with them has sunk to about 25%.

***** Hand History for Game 1375804606 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jan 01 14:24:56 EST 2005
Table Goosebumps (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Boonaru ( $46.5)
Seat 2: Leatherwings ( $56.65)
Seat 3: samh133 ( $84.43)
Seat 4: udpokey ( $94.17)
Seat 5: PoopyPaws ( $68.2)
Seat 6: bizjet64 ( $21)
Seat 7: Joffell ( $50.25)
Seat 8: Pay2SeeMe ( $50)
Seat 9: coolmoney_1 ( $49)
Seat 10: Braves3324 ( $48)
Leatherwings posts small blind (0.5)
udpokey posts big blind (1)
Pay2SeeMe posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ As, Ad ]
PoopyPaws calls (1)
bizjet64 folds.
Joffell folds.
Pay2SeeMe checks.
coolmoney_1 folds.
Braves3324 calls (1)
Boonaru raises (4) to 4
Leatherwings folds.
udpokey folds.
PoopyPaws raises (6) to 7
Pay2SeeMe folds.
Braves3324 calls (6)
Boonaru raises (16) to 20
PoopyPaws folds.
Braves3324 calls (13)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 8s, Qh ]
Braves3324 checks.
Boonaru bets (26.5)
Boonaru is all-In.
Braves3324 calls (26.5)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
Creating Main Pot with $99.5 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $99.5 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ts 8s Qh Jd Qd ]
Boonaru balance $0, lost $46.5 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qh,Qd,Jd ]
Leatherwings balance $56.15, lost $0.5 (folded)
samh133 balance $84.43, sits out
udpokey balance $93.17, lost $1 (folded)
PoopyPaws balance $61.2, lost $7 (folded)
bizjet64 balance $21, didn't bet (folded)
Joffell balance $50.25, didn't bet (folded)
Pay2SeeMe balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
coolmoney_1 balance $49, didn't bet (folded)
Braves3324 balance $101, bet $46.5, collected $99.5, net +$53 [ 8c 8d ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qh,Qd,8c,8d,8s ]

Cocco_Bill

01-01-2005, 09:27 PM

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As soon as I win an all in with KK or AA I will post it here(hasnt happened in a very long time). If I stop losing almost all my money on these two hands I promise I will drop this uninteresting subject. Right now this is my biggest leak by far so I will keep on nagging a while longer.

***** Hand History for Game 1376472095 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jan 01 17:19:27 EST 2005
Table Get Lucky (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: The_Carlos ( $59)
Seat 2: Boonaru ( $66.1)
Seat 3: IBluff72o ( $45)
Seat 4: SpongeBob_68 ( $118)
Seat 5: viktor939 ( $46.5)
Seat 6: SeanR87 ( $52.55)
Seat 7: GuzzleBeer ( $79.05)
Seat 8: Suited_YNot ( $50)
Seat 9: Danny415 ( $53.5)
Seat 10: brightair ( $48.9)
brightair posts small blind (0.5)
The_Carlos posts big blind (1)
Suited_YNot posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kh, Kd ]
Boonaru calls (1)
IBluff72o folds.
SpongeBob_68 folds.
viktor939 raises (5.5) to 5.5
SeanR87 folds.
GuzzleBeer folds.
Suited_YNot folds.
Danny415 folds.
brightair folds.
The_Carlos folds.
Boonaru raises (9) to 10
viktor939 raises (24.5) to 30
Boonaru raises (56.1) to 66.1
Boonaru is all-In.
viktor939 calls (16.5)
viktor939 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $92.5 with viktor939
Creating Side Pot 1 with $19.6 with Boonaru
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Qh, 2d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $92.5 | Side Pot 1: $19.6 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Td Qh 2d 7d 8d ]
The_Carlos balance $58, lost $1 (folded)
Boonaru balance $19.6, bet $66.1, collected $19.6, lost -$46.5 [ Kh Kd ] [ a flush, king high -- Kd,Td,8d,7d,2d ]
IBluff72o balance $45, didn't bet (folded)
SpongeBob_68 balance $118, didn't bet (folded)
viktor939 balance $92.5, bet $46.5, collected $92.5, net +$46 [ Ad Ah ] [ a flush, ace high with ace kicker -- Ad,Td,8d,7d,2d ]
SeanR87 balance $52.55, didn't bet (folded)
GuzzleBeer balance $79.05, didn't bet (folded)
Suited_YNot balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
Danny415 balance $53.5, didn't bet (folded)
brightair balance $48.4, lost $0.5 (folded)

Cocco_Bill

01-02-2005, 03:44 PM

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As I said as soon as I win an all in with KK AA I will post it here. I am beginning to doubt it will ever happen again..

Here's the latest one clearly illustrating that every hand is far superior to KK AA heads up against me..

***** Hand History for Game 1379914414 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (PL) - Sun Jan 02 11:36:23 EST 2005
Table Ace High (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: BigBiskit ( $12)
Seat 2: h0bart ( $48)
Seat 3: Boonaru ( $56.96)
Seat 4: rollstreet ( $92.23)
Seat 5: racerem ( $9.04)
Seat 6: hinesgolf ( $46)
Seat 7: white7593 ( $36.55)
Seat 8: MLL2326 ( $57.25)
Seat 9: boogieboy ( $59.82)
Seat 10: GRUJAN ( $61.1)
boogieboy posts small blind (0.5)
GRUJAN posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kd, Kc ]
BigBiskit folds.
h0bart folds.
Boonaru raises (3) to 3
rollstreet folds.
racerem raises (9.04) to 9.04
racerem is all-In.
hinesgolf folds.
white7593 folds.
MLL2326 calls (9.04)
boogieboy calls (8.54)
GRUJAN folds.
Boonaru raises (43.2) to 46.2
MLL2326 folds.
boogieboy folds.
Creating Main Pot with $35.31 with racerem
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, Js, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $35.31 | Side Pot 1: $36.01 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 2c Js 5s 4s 6d ]
BigBiskit balance $12, didn't bet (folded)
h0bart balance $48, didn't bet (folded)
Boonaru balance $46.77, bet $46.2, collected $36.01, lost -$10.19 [ Kd Kc ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kc,Js,6d,5s ]
rollstreet balance $92.23, didn't bet (folded)
racerem balance $35.31, bet $9.04, collected $35.31, net +$26.27 [ Jh 5c ] [ two pairs, jacks and fives -- Jh,Js,6d,5c,5s ]
hinesgolf balance $46, didn't bet (folded)
white7593 balance $36.55, didn't bet (folded)
MLL2326 balance $48.21, lost $9.04 (folded)
boogieboy balance $50.78, lost $9.04 (folded)
GRUJAN balance $60.1, lost $1 (folded)

Cocco_Bill

01-02-2005, 03:54 PM

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Only way I can win with these hands is to fold evryone pre flop. All ins with these hands is charity.

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01-02-2005, 04:33 PM

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You're just on a huge downswing. I recall SCGolfer having a similiarly fun time with his cards a little while back.

-'rilla

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

Sed

01-02-2005, 05:11 PM

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Either that or the poker gods have decided that he should take all the AA/KK bad beats for everyone on the forum.

I for one thank you Cocco.

- sed

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01-02-2005, 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

You're just on a huge downswing. I recall SCGolfer having a similiarly fun time with his cards a little while back.

-'rilla

I hope it will end..here's another AA bad beat even though they are not really bad beats anymore as I have come to expect to lose my stack every time with AA..

***** Hand History for Game 1380487017 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sun Jan 02 14:43:24 EST 2005
Table Fast - Money (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Boonaru ( $51.6)
Seat 2: Tsutsui ( $74.8)
Seat 3: thirtytwo ( $55.25)
Seat 4: herb45 ( $42.45)
Seat 5: D_Jones ( $183.69)
Seat 6: peateypab ( $48.6)
Seat 7: BoxOfBananas ( $57.3)
Seat 8: h0bart ( $46)
Seat 9: Gus_C ( $15.95)
Seat 10: BigCactusHat ( $50)
D_Jones posts small blind (0.5)
peateypab posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ As, Ad ]
BoxOfBananas raises (3) to 3
h0bart folds.
Gus_C folds.
BigCactusHat folds.
Boonaru raises (6) to 6
Tsutsui folds.
thirtytwo calls (6)
herb45 folds.
D_Jones folds.
peateypab folds.
BoxOfBananas calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 3s, 8d ]
BoxOfBananas checks.
Boonaru bets (10)
thirtytwo raises (20) to 20
BoxOfBananas folds.
Boonaru raises (35.6) to 45.6
Boonaru is all-In.
thirtytwo calls (25.6)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Td ]
Creating Main Pot with $107.7 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $107.7 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9d 3s 8d Ks Td ]
Boonaru balance $0, lost $51.6 [ As Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Ks,Td,9d ]
Tsutsui balance $74.8, didn't bet (folded)
thirtytwo balance $111.35, bet $51.6, collected $107.7, net +$56.1 [ 8h 9h ] [ two pairs, nines and eights -- Ks,9h,9d,8h,8d ]
herb45 balance $42.45, didn't bet (folded)
D_Jones balance $183.19, lost $0.5 (folded)
peateypab balance $47.6, lost $1 (folded)
BoxOfBananas balance $51.3, lost $6 (folded)
h0bart balance $46, didn't bet (folded)
Gus_C balance $15.95, didn't bet (folded)
BigCactusHat balance $50, didn't bet (folded)

Cocco_Bill

01-02-2005, 06:53 PM

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I know it sounds crazy to think it would be rigged in any way, but the probability to get out drawn so many consecutive times with KK/AA is also tiny. I don't know what to believe anymore..

01-02-2005, 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

I know it sounds crazy to think it would be rigged in any way, but the probability to get out drawn so many consecutive times with KK/AA is also tiny. I don't know what to believe anymore..

Online poker isn't rigged

But you are getting absolutely smashed up out there, one mofo of a downswing.

Just wait it out and eventually your cards will start holding up again.

The one sure thing about luck is that it will change.

UncleBuddy

01-02-2005, 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

I know it sounds crazy to think it would be rigged in any way, but the probability to get out drawn so many consecutive times with KK/AA is also tiny. I don't know what to believe anymore..

Naw, not rigged. Youre just cold. I gto through some hellacious cold streaks and very rarely do I get a hot streak. Don't press....keep betting on AA, and it'll even out.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

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Cocco_Bill

01-02-2005, 09:52 PM

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I cant believe it! AA actually held up!!

***** Hand History for Game 1381253709 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sun Jan 02 17:48:01 EST 2005
Table Necklace (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Boonaru ( $55.9)
Seat 3: SJU104 ( $50)
Seat 4: tidel ( $63.1)
Seat 5: UPSMAN101 ( $38.4)
Seat 6: waltwally ( $47.5)
Seat 7: teleblaster ( $78.3)
Seat 8: polock61 ( $49.7)
Seat 9: bluebucks ( $84.5)
Seat 10: WhippetAnnie ( $50)
UPSMAN101 posts small blind (0.5)
teleblaster posts big blind (1)
WhippetAnnie posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, As ]
polock61 calls (1)
bluebucks folds.
WhippetAnnie checks.
Boonaru raises (5) to 5
UPSMAN101 raises (8.5) to 9
teleblaster folds.
polock61 folds.
WhippetAnnie folds.
Boonaru raises (50.9) to 55.9
Boonaru is all-In.
UPSMAN101 calls (29.4)
UPSMAN101 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $76.8 with UPSMAN101
Creating Side Pot 1 with $17.5 with Boonaru
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 2c, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $76.8 | Side Pot 1: $17.5 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 8d 2c Tc 4h Jh ]
pinebot balance $50, sits out
Boonaru balance $94.3, bet $55.9, collected $94.3, net +$38.4 [ Ad As ] [ a pair of aces -- Ad,As,Jh,Tc,8d ]
SJU104 balance $50, sits out
tidel balance $63.1, sits out
UPSMAN101 balance $0, lost $38.4 [ Qs Qd ] [ a pair of queens -- Qs,Qd,Jh,Tc,8d ]
waltwally balance $47.5, sits out
teleblaster balance $77.3, lost $1 (folded)
polock61 balance $48.7, lost $1 (folded)
bluebucks balance $84.5, didn't bet (folded)
WhippetAnnie balance $49, lost $1 (folded)

UncleBuddy

01-02-2005, 09:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

I cant believe it! AA actually held up!!

So do you have some sort of generator that gives you all these pocket rockets?

After staring at 92o for the better part of the day, I'm beginning to wonder if you have bad luck....or if I do.

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Cocco_Bill

01-02-2005, 11:56 PM

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***** Hand History for Game 1381837831 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sun Jan 02 19:53:03 EST 2005
Table Dealing Do's (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Boonaru ( $54.75)
Seat 2: Kowboys2 ( $58)
Seat 3: Inhand ( $69.15)
Seat 4: baard ( $44.88)
Seat 5: Universatile ( $48.05)
Seat 6: ROON2004 ( $36.6)
Seat 7: lancasme ( $74.7)
Seat 8: blkwidow123 ( $82.52)
Seat 9: Bazaar ( $68.6)
Seat 10: RLXIX ( $67.25)
Universatile posts small blind (0.5)
ROON2004 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kc, Kd ]
lancasme raises (4) to 4
blkwidow123 folds.
Bazaar folds.
RLXIX folds.
Boonaru raises (8) to 8
Kowboys2 folds.
Inhand folds.
baard folds.
Universatile folds.
ROON2004 folds.
lancasme calls (4)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3d, Qs, Qh ]
lancasme checks.
Boonaru bets (10)
lancasme raises (20) to 20
Boonaru calls (10)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
lancasme bets (46.7)
lancasme is all-In.
Boonaru calls (26.75)
Boonaru is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ As ]
Creating Main Pot with $108 with Boonaru
Creating Side Pot 1 with $19.95 with lancasme
** Summary **
Main Pot: $108 | Side Pot 1: $19.95 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3d Qs Qh 3c As ]
Boonaru balance $108, bet $54.75, collected $108, net +$53.25 [ Kc Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- As,Kc,Kd,Qs,Qh ]
Kowboys2 balance $58, didn't bet (folded)
Inhand balance $69.15, didn't bet (folded)
baard balance $44.88, didn't bet (folded)
Universatile balance $47.55, lost $0.5 (folded)
ROON2004 balance $35.6, lost $1 (folded)
lancasme balance $19.95, bet $74.7, collected $19.95, lost -$54.75 [ Jh Jc ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks -- As,Qs,Qh,Jh,Jc ]
blkwidow123 balance $82.52, didn't bet (folded)
Bazaar balance $68.6, didn't bet (folded)
RLXIX balance $67.25, didn't bet (folded)

Cocco_Bill

01-08-2005, 04:20 PM

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Well I have started playing and easily winning on Nordicbet again after hitting a sickening amount of bad beats when playing for the bonus on Empirepoker. I left a bit of money in and just gave it another short 20 min go and indeed I hit more bad beats. First KK against 79s which flopps the straight after calling 4BB, then I hit a set against AK with an ace on the board only to lose to a runner runner flush.

I dont know what it is with Empire/party poker, but I just find it impossible to win there nowadays after a great initial 1300$ win streak in the first week of play. I will see what happens with my last 300$ I have at Empirepoker, if I lose it I don't think I will ever return to that poker site.

Cocco_Bill

01-08-2005, 04:45 PM

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Ah just got KK again against someone with pocket 66. Lost to a straight on the river. Now down to 250$.

Cocco_Bill

01-08-2005, 05:38 PM

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Hit KK again, this time against AA and lost making it 3 bad beats(well at least on other poker sites they are considered bad bets) out of 3 possible for the session holding KK. Now have 280$ left.

a500lbgorilla

01-08-2005, 05:47 PM

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God damn you get KK and AA a lot.

-'rilla

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You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

Cocco_Bill

01-08-2005, 06:03 PM

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CARDSON

I get KK AA a lot, but god damn is it costly..

Here's my latest bad beat, I just called on the flop and turn because I knew I had him beat until the river as usual..

I try to play poker the best I can, but there really is nothing to do when the cards are set up to get you bust.

***** Hand History for Game 1407610973 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jan 08 13:52:55 EST 2005
Table Table 11325 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: lbp_2 ( $168.8)
Seat 2: pyrotech1 ( $50)
Seat 3: ArthurPewty ( $54.75)
Seat 4: rbutan ( $44)
Seat 5: CALL_I_DARE ( $48.6)
Seat 6: drossxyu ( $59)
Seat 7: hflip ( $50)
Seat 8: AzyWasCrazy ( $33.95)
Seat 9: JDWinChip ( $39.2)
Seat 10: Muck_Your_KK ( $237.15)
JDWinChip posts small blind (0.5)
Muck_Your_KK posts big blind (1)
pyrotech1 posts big blind (1)
hflip posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AzyWasCrazy [ Kd, As ]
lbp_2 folds.
pyrotech1 checks.
ArthurPewty folds.
rbutan raises (5) to 5
CALL_I_DARE folds.
drossxyu folds.
hflip folds.
AzyWasCrazy calls (5)
JDWinChip folds.
Muck_Your_KK folds.
pyrotech1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, Ah, Th ]
rbutan bets (6)
AzyWasCrazy calls (6)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
rbutan bets (33)
rbutan is all-In.
AzyWasCrazy calls (22.95)
AzyWasCrazy is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 3h ]
Creating Main Pot with $68.4 with AzyWasCrazy
Creating Side Pot 1 with $10.05 with rbutan
** Summary **
Main Pot: $68.4 | Side Pot 1: $10.05 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 8s Ah Th Qc 3h ]
lbp_2 balance $168.8, didn't bet (folded)
pyrotech1 balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
ArthurPewty balance $54.75, didn't bet (folded)
rbutan balance $78.45, bet $44, collected $78.45, net +$34.45 [ 3d Qd ] [ two pairs, queens and threes -- Ah,Qd,Qc,3d,3h ]
CALL_I_DARE balance $48.6, didn't bet (folded)
drossxyu balance $59, didn't bet (folded)
hflip balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
AzyWasCrazy balance $0, lost $33.95 [ Kd As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ah,Kd,Qc,Th ]
JDWinChip balance $38.7, lost $0.5 (folded)
Muck_Your_KK balance $236.15, lost $1 (folded)

Cocco_Bill

01-08-2005, 06:10 PM

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Any ideas? Or should I just conclude that its not possible to win anymore on Party/Empire poker and quit these sites?

Down to 210 $ now

Cocco_Bill

01-18-2005, 03:13 AM

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I play at other sites mostly now and returned just for a few sessions on Empire poker. At other poker sites AA KK behave normally and I win money with them, at Empire/party poker I've lost almost EVERY AA/KK that gets to a showdown over the last month.

Just an observation...

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