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Bo G
Old 04-10-2005, 04:41 PM     Post subject: Good Push or Lucky Win? #1 (permalink)  
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POKERSTARS GAME #1500944996: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/10 - 11:44:08 (ET)
Table 'Anius' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bo G ($96.05 in chips)
Seat 2: billyem ($27.05 in chips)
Seat 3: seth112 ($36.55 in chips)
Seat 4: Tired Loser ($169.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Diabhal ($21.25 in chips)
Seat 7: king smegma ($69 in chips)
Seat 8: kieryade ($162.25 in chips)
Seat 9: tkemuxi518 ($13 in chips)
billyem: posts small blind $0.50
seth112: posts big blind $1
eNTiTy: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bo G [8d 7c]
Tired Loser: folds
Diabhal: folds
king smegma: folds
kieryade: raises $4 to $5
tkemuxi518: calls $5
Bo G: calls $5
billyem: calls $4.50
seth112: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [9s Td 5c]
billyem: checks
seth112: checks
kieryade: bets $25
tkemuxi518: calls $8 and is all-in
Bo G: raises $66.05 to $91.05 and is all-in
billyem: folds
seth112: calls $31.55 and is all-in
kieryade: folds
*** TURN *** [9s Td 5c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [9s Td 5c 9c] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
seth112: shows [Jh Ks] (a pair of Nines)
Bo G: shows [8d 7c] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Bo G collected $63.85 from side pot
tkemuxi518: mucks hand
Bo G collected $54.25 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $121.10 Main pot $54.25. Side pot $63.85. | Rake $3
Board [9s Td 5c 9c 6d]
Seat 1: Bo G (button) showed [8d 7c] and won ($118.10) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 2: billyem (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: seth112 (big blind) showed [Jh Ks] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: Tired Loser folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Diabhal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: king smegma folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kieryade folded on the Flop
Seat 9: tkemuxi518 shows [As Qh]
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop.

Fold on the flop ($25 to call in a $58 pot = just under 50% for a draw that will come in 31% of the time).

If you'd made it that far without pushing, chances are you would have been better off folding the turn too, as the odds get even worse (16% to come in).

You got very lucky. Over time, this will lose you money. The only exception is if everyone else in the hand is folding, and only one did.
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Thanks I though so. The pre flop raiser has been raising on junk all afternoon so I thought I had 50-50 with him and other people picked up on it so they went in $5 pre flop. I figured I was the underdog in the hand but wanted to see how big of a dog I was. Thanks for the ingo Jeffrey much appreciated.
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Even though all he had was king high, bad push. You didn't know he just had king high.

However, if you knew exactly what his cards were, good push. 'Cause now you have the straight outs, and outs to pair your hole cards, which should put you at just over 50%.

I don't know how you can put him on crap though...
 
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Old 04-10-2005, 07:57 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I can't that is why I was doubting my play. I know I won but I didn't feel good about the win.
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Wow, definitly fold preflop.

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Thanks I though so. The pre flop raiser has been raising on junk all afternoon so I thought I had 50-50 with him and other people picked up on it so they went in $5 pre flop. I figured I was the underdog in the hand but wanted to see how big of a dog I was. Thanks for the ingo Jeffrey much appreciated.
If that's the case, you're "winning" hands will often be a pair of 8s or some such.

Find a better spot to get all your money in.

Just becuase he's playing poorly doesn't make it ok for you.

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Old 04-11-2005, 01:23 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Cant say I'd agree with your play at any time , that's just me though.
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