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TalentedTom
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07-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Post subject: Good fold or pay to see?
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PokerStars Game #2118098038: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/07/16 - 18:30:50 (ET)
Table 'Masaryk' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: sickman ($15.90 in chips)
Seat 3: sidesalto ($11.65 in chips)
Seat 4: (CK)CAPTAIN ($16.10 in chips)
Seat 5: FourReel ($7 in chips)
Seat 6: Sloppy_John ($18.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Unrelenting ($48.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Loopea ($8.95 in chips)
Seat 9: boostNslide ($37.30 in chips)
belkel13 will be allowed to play after the button
sickman: posts small blind $0.10
sidesalto: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Unrelenting :Th: :Td:
(CK)CAPTAIN: calls $0.25
FourReel: folds
Sloppy_John: calls $0.25
Unrelenting: calls $0.25
Loopea: calls $0.25
boostNslide: folds
sickman: calls $0.15
sidesalto: checks
*** FLOP *** 
sickman: bets $0.50
sidesalto: calls $0.50
(CK)CAPTAIN: folds
Sloppy_John: calls $0.50
Unrelenting: raises $1 to $1.50
Loopea: calls $1.50
sickman: folds
sidesalto: calls $1
Sloppy_John: folds
*** TURN *** :Tc:
sidesalto: bets $3
Unrelenting: calls $3
Loopea: folds
*** RIVER *** :Tc: :Kh:
sidesalto: bets $6.90 and is all-in
Unrelenting: folds
sidesalto collected $12.40 from pot
sidesalto: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13 | Rake $0.60
Board :Tc: :Kh:
The fact that he came out raising lead me to beleive he was chasing a straight and hit with 89, i decided to call just for the possibilty of something pairing up on the river, but I still have a few doubts :/
I just have this thing of not getting to attached to "nothing pots" where there is no preflop raise but it was a difficult.
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Tom.S
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DimitriT
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His bet sure seems to indicate the T helped him alot and given the draws, he has to bet there. So yea, I think your read has merit. He may have also been nursing 7T or 6T from the BB, tough call.
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Les_Worm
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I call here everytime.
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The artist formerly known as Knish
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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I think you were right to fold. Something sure woke him up on the turn.
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Nugunz
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Gotta call that
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Jesus Galapogos, is that avatar real or fake?!
I pay off the straight here, crying call.
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Galapogos
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by dwarfman
Jesus Galapogos, is that avatar real or fake?!
I pay off the straight here, crying call.
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It's real, everytime I have a losing session at poker I go to the gym to work out my frustrations.
<---- This is the result...
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Alright, I'm tired and grumpy.
But are you serious?!
preflop: fine.
Flop: What is this? weak bet, call, call AND YOU DO A POT BUILDING DOLLAR RAISE?! You're getting no information with this play and you're just digging yourself into deep shit becuase any of the following cards put you in a bad spot. 
Your raise got you no information it, it gave you no pot control and your hand is so weak it can't stand to give any cheap cards. All it did was give you lead in the pot but you hand has little value after the flop.
Turn: Your gin card and you're afraid you're beat? op only has 7 bucks behind on this bet and you now have a house redraw. AI calling just give op a chance to scare you away on the river...
River: op scares you away.
Just fold preflop...
Maybe I shouldnt post when I'm so grumpy.
-'rilla
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Greedo017
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i think what rilla was trying to say, is TT on an all unders board is a deceptively weak hand if you go to the river, because there is no good card that can come. It needs to be play super fast on the flop if you think you're ahead or let go of. you got your m0ney turn card: i'm pushing right there.
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Cocco_Bill
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Pot it on the flop, re-raise the turn, DONT fold the river!
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